Caray, Caray!

Thank you for posting this Hellashelle.
 

Whoo! Thank you J desde NYC! Things are really heating up and you laid it all out beautifully for us to discuss! Great recap, nice and clear, with great vocab and humor :)

"Say it with me class: If it wasn’t for bad luck, MD wouldn’t have any luck. Yah! Great title :)
"Clara continues to put Leo on ignore even as he chases her down with his best “Please, baby, please.” --this one had me giggling.

I also really liked your observations about Gabriel Soto. ITA when they say it best when they say nothing at all

-Somehow Dan's newest claim -- telling his mom that MD wants lots of money -- pisses me off even more than his previous one of her being in on this scheme. I hate this guy!
-Also, Jacinto got to the bottom of this dress mess in like 1 episode. Are you kidding me?! This makes me even more annoyed at MD! Why is this sleaze more invested in this than you are?!
-I reeeeeally don't like Maleny, but in her argument with Max, I found myself hoping he was a much better prosecutor or defense attorney than he let on, because his argument was weak.
-Ursula and Dan's scene was one of the creepiest yet. Flavio Medina put on a great show as a disturbed, evil dude on AB too, but when he crawled to his mom and put his head on her lap while she was all "there, there" like a twisted Maleficent, I was like "whoa. This family is more and more twisted every day." This was the first time I've ever thought that Ursula seemed very relaxed and in control and she is 10x scarier for it.

Thanks again, J desde NYC!
 

Thank you J, great job.
The only bad luck that MD has is her knowing Dan. He's the sole reason she's had all this trouble.

I still can't figure out where this show is going, and that's a good thing. I'm figuring that MD will find out soon that Dan is engaged, but how this story continues is a huge question mark.

So who broke into the shop? Dan?
 

This is really good J desde NYC and thank you for it.

"Jacinto continues to play evil Sherlock Holmes"

Yep, Ursula is capable of anything. I've been in awe of Dans ability to manipulate mom but I was wrong, she knows his games yet eagerly desires to deliver on his whims.

I don't feel as bad for MD as I probably should. She is in a relationship with the love of her life and her mother approves.

Jacinto could be MD's savior, how ironic.

MD cannot muster anger for anyone but Max, not even Daniel whom has lied to her.


 

I actually wondered about the shop and I feel sure it's the next thing MD will start taking on guilt for. She ran out of there without locking up or cleaning up all that food, and Dan ran after her. I thought it was going to be infested by rats, but the rats just stole stuff and left. It might very well have been Dan, but it doesn't really matter either way. Hopefully, this time Max helps her out rather than Dan.

But if it was Dan, I constantly underestimate him. I thought when Esperanza said that her machine was old, but still worked, that he would "accidentally" drop it. I didn't think he'd rob the store he just furnished. But I guess that would be smart; he could return the furniture and get that money back while still making MD and family think he really did go through the trouble of buying it in the first place.
 

Great recap JdesdeNYC! I loved the structure and you are right, MD only has bad luck.

I think Jacinto is more obsessed with VD than Maria Dolores. She is less interested in figuring out how to help her family economically than in how the dress ended up in that other shop and she doesn't want to be back there while it seems Jacionto is obsessed with getting his old twisted power back, Jacinto also tends to think badly of everyone while MD believes Daniel wouldn't sell the dress.

I thought Daniel was smart to confess to Maria Dolores before he was discovered by Leo.

Tofie: I wonder if MD has unconciously related Max with the time when all the bad stuff started happening in her life, she first met him the day her father was murdered and maybe she has transfered all her feelings of frustration towards him without meaning to. Which would be ironic since Daniel is the real responsible for her distress.

Jarocha


 

Excellent. This episode was quite confusing after a while.

Muscular dystrophy. So now we know. None of the types of this are curable at this time and my guess is that Julian will not live to the end of the series.

Jacinto could just as easily been the vandal who trashed the new shop; he has a motive and he is a sadist. Although I will just as easily believe that Daniel the Troll did it. He will deserve a very serious Karmageddon by the time this is over.

Maleny is sick, sick, sick in ways beyond the way she interacts with Daniel.

 

JdesdeNYC- Thank you so much. I did not see this episode. MD's misfortunes continue, but I'm happy to hear that she and Max are finally going to clear some things up. Let's hope she tells him the whole story about how Dan is supposedly a chauffeur, and doesn't just leave it at Dan telling her his family is in financial ruin. He needs to hear enough so that he knows what a huge lie Dan has been spinning.
 

JdesdeNYC--Glad you got your recap posted. Really enjoyed reading it. Will be back tomorrow with more comments.

One little thing that springs to mind. Leo offered to help Honoria deal with one of Julian's customers on-line. (I guess Julian was a home-based accountant.) She didn't know how to work the computer and hated thinking Julian would lose customers. What we saw was Leo taking care of whatever it was the customer needed.

Hmmm. Isela is going to get computer lessons from Leo? In my mind, she can still go either way--prota or anta.
 

Good recap J desde NYC, Thank you much, this is very imformative. There is so much confusion with all these lies floating around about MD, max, julian. MAKE IT STOP!!!!
If it weren't for bad luke, MD wouldn't have no luke at all. Poor girl, the train reck that is
MARIA DELORIS!!! :~{
Don't look like julains haveing any good luke
Either. All of these people are just sad. I hppe he don't get beaten again, I can't take it. He can't defend himself, he can't even stand without holding on to something. He should not be in jail, he needs a miracle Max!!!
 

Max could be the one that clears everything for MD, if only he would tell her about Daniels relationship with Ivana. By confronting Max, MD is justify her relationship with liar Daniel. Not betting on that though. Either she will bitch Max out and walk off in a huff or Max just pulls a whatever, let her find out herself, or Max may tell her and she will not believe him. Daniel is the love of MD's life and she will defend that.
 

Great title for this one. Jacinto could be Dan's baby daddy all things considered with this scummy bunch. Goosebump material!
 

I too hope that MD sticks it out to have a full conversations about all of the confusion. I want her to tell Max enough to clear up misconceptions, but I also want her to listen long enough to hear the truth about Daniel.

jardinera654 - oh, double ew! ew to the nth degree!
 

If MD's search for the truth of the wayward dress any indication she won't hang around long enough for Max to disclose anything. She is way too invested in her relationship with Daniel. It will become increasing difficult for her to stamp out all the fires he creates though she is trying. I wonder how she will spin the new disclosure to her mother. I fear, no matter whom ransacked the shop and stripped it bare, ITA Hellashelle, Daniel will come to the rescue and all be forgotten. I laughed when MD told Daniel she would pay him back every penny. Yeah right, with what?

Max ain't no sharp scissor either when it comes to Maleny but I don't see him as far up her butt and could ask her to give back the key to his apartment any day.

The person that will go off when they realize Daniel has a girl on the side is Ivana, and not on Daniel but MD.

 

Tofie - I agree, Ivana will def go BSC on MD's butt. She thinks Daniel's the first man who ever loved her in spite of her weight. She lost her virginity to him and he proposed -- she's going to think he hung the moon unless proven otherwise. I have a suspicion that since Ari loves bigger women (and money), he'll make his way into her life at some point. He's scum now, but he would prob do her self-esteem a lot of good so she can stop obsessing about her weight and thinking that no one will ever love her because of it (Ivana, sweetie, it's not a big thing. Heck, you're not that big a thing -- there are bigger.) She needs to hang out with my girl Doris and get a shot of diva in her! (diva, not to be confused with the Patio's own Diva. But she could use a shot of that too!)

Max blames himself whenever Maleny acts nutty or disinterested. He's been clear that he thinks any petulance on her part comes from him spending so much time at work, so I'm not sure he would ever snap out of it if he wasn't destined to fall for MD.
 

Hellashelle- Ivana really does seem like the ideal woman for Ari who loves both money and curvy women. But I hope for someone who truly loves her, just for her. Are we sure Gerry is gay? I get a artsy designer vibe from him, but not necessarily a gay vibe. He truly loves her. Ivana has a lot of growing up to do though. Not only does she need to work on her self esteem, but also her self control when it comes to her relationships with people and employees. She can't keep flying off the handle at every bit of bad news, but needs to learn how to listen, gather facts, and then make sound judgements.
 

Vivi, I'm not sure Gerry is gay either and I have lifetime friends that are. Please not Ari, he's an opportunist. Gerry does care deeply for Ivana and he's her rock and why Daniel has attached the guy. I'm loving the complexity of Ivana as a character.
 

I was surprised when someone mentioned that Gerry was gay too. If we could find out which scene that was mentioned in, we could put that baby to rest.
 

Thanks, J desde NYC. I missed Friday's episode, but now I feel like I saw it.
 

Hey guys,

I agree, Gerry would be perfect for Ivana. He loves her and when he put his head against hers last week, I almost swooned. Maybe I'm wrong and he didn't say he was gay (I did fall asleep a lot in those first couple episodes). Let me go back and see if I can find the scene.


 

Hellashelle--
The primary reason we think Gerry is gay is that that is the one role normally assigned to a gay character. Need a creative designer? Make him gay. Shows we are diverse around here. Thanks for stereotyping, casting director. I apologize for myself, because I assumed he was gay the first time he came on the screen. Damn, casting director for making me think that way. In this case his acting is not flamboyant, as they made him in TdA (and its predecessor, El Privilegio de Amar).
 

Oh but I loved the fashion designer's gay character in EPdA --great Novela.
J desde NYC -- What a fantastically written recap. As stated by another above, keeping all the lies straight is almost impossible.
Poor MD she is still stupid, doesn't listen to those who want to tell her the truth, only listens to Dan who lies through his nose directly from his brain, and can't put 2 + 2 together. I can't believe she still hasn't figured out that it was Dan who stole the dress.
 

Ok, I went back and found it and I'm happy to say that I think I misunderstood a line and ran with it under the assumption that TNs like gay fashion designers. It's in cap 2; Ivana and Gerry are talking about Daniel making a play for Ivana and her thinking it's a scam. Gerry's looking very sad and Ivana's talking about wanting to get married and have children. She calls him her best friend and then I thought he said "Si fuera otro hombre..." which I translated as "If I were another man..." and somehow took all of this to mean he would date her if he wasn't gay. In reality, he did say "Si fuera otro hombre..." but that can also be translated as "If he were another man": he was talking about Daniel and, I think, suggesting that if he were another man, she could take his asking her out at face value, but because it's Daniel, his invitations can't be trusted.

Sooooo...maybe he's not gay at all?

If not: YES!!!! Him and Ivana all the way!!!
 

hellashelle- I think the interpretation that he was talking about Daniel when he said that line is the correct one. He never trusted Dan from day one. At this point I don't think Gerry's sexuality has been addressed at all, so we don't know one way or the other. My very first gut feeling when I watched the first scenes with Ivana and Gerry was that he's in love with her. I have no concrete evidence to point to. Just something about his expression when Ivana first started speaking about her feelings for Dan-- distaste for the object of her affection, but also some sadness it seemed. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 

Yeah, Vivi, I feel pretty dumb misconstruing his comment that way because I was assuming the TN was dishing out more of the same. My bad, y'all.
 

I'm not sure about Gerry being gay, doesn't matter to me one way or another, but I believe he has true affection for Ivana, is worried about her wellbeing, decision making, etc. They've know and worked together for so long, it could just be a real friendship.
I had many such male friends when working.
 

I thought the same as Vivi, that he's totally in love with her, but he thinks he's too lowly of an employee to think she would ever feel the same way about him, so he just tries to be her friend.