Monday, August 03, 2015
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS: BAJO EL MISMO CIELO, EL SEÑOR DE LOS CIELOS 3, AVENIDA BRASIL, etc – week of August 3, 2015
Wow, it's August already. Where did the summer go?
I am copying Deb's cast list of Bajo el Mismo Cielo from the comments to last week's post and putting them in this week's post to help folks get a handle on the characters. Thanks, Deb. Enjoy your week!
Bajo el mismo cielo"... the cast
(this is a rough google translation, the original article is here with photos)
(this may help us get oriented at the start, but be warned, this may contain too much information)
Carlos Martinez (Gabriel Porras)
An undocumented Mexican father and widower who lives in Los Angeles working as a gardener who came to America with his late wife Teresa and her eldest son, Rodrigo, who disappeared years ago so rebellious. Carlos is an honest fighter man who leads a double life: during the day is a docile gardener who works tirelessly to support his younger son Luis, but at night becomes a gallant father who goes out into the most violent areas Los Angeles to find Rodrigo. An isolated and quiet man who tries to go unnoticed not be deported by the "migra". Carlos's life will shift when he meets Adela and fall in love. What Charles does not know is that Adela also represents the only hatred he harbors in his heart hatred for the gang snatched his eldest son.
Morales Adela (Maria Elisa Camargo)
Young Mexican who came to the United States as a child, accompanied by her mother, older brother and grandmother. Adela grew up in a dysfunctional home. Her mother was and still is an alcoholic and promiscuous woman. Her grandmother was the one who took care of her, but when the old lady died, Adela was a teenager and went adrift. Together with her brother Matthias, she joined the gang, where she found acceptance and the family that her mother always denied. Behind that facade of tough woman, a lonely-heart be hidden. Her desire is to start a new life. You will meet the man of her life and her love for him will be tested when their common past intersect unexpectedly.
Luis Martinez (Alejandro Speitzer)
He is the younger son of Carlos and is an "American citizen". He is a nice young man and cheerful, but he has grown on his own, because his father works hard and never home. Despite his attractive Hispanic features, Luis rejects Mexican customs. Luis hatred against poverty grows when Carlos forcing him to work as a gardener at the house where a wealthy and beautiful adolescent lives. Ruled by their hormones and their impulsiveness, Luis makes up the unimaginable to win the girl.
Rodrigo Martinez (Luis Ernesto Franco)
He is the eldest son of Charles and Teresa, with whom he crossed the border was just a child. Rodrigo sought to joining La Colonia, a gang from the neighborhood to which he considered his real family. He walked away from Carlos and never reappeared. At the beginning of the story, we meet Rodrigo in prison only by his nickname: The Faier, a mysterious prisoner, violent, imposing, tall, muscular, full of sex appeal. Although always looks safe and unforgiving, basically he feels very lonely. However, the façade of a heartless being is going to collapse when he meets a beautiful nurse who achieved to move him from day one.
Greicy Cordero (Kendra Santa Cruz)
At the beginning of the story, we meet Greicy as a shy, beautiful young woman who hides her beauty behind large spectacles and simplicity of dress. She just graduated as a nursing assistant and after seeking work in a host of health institutions, had no choice but to accept a job in one of the most dangerous jails in Los Angeles. Her first day of work will be a nightmare, because you will be trying to cure many prisoners at a time, after a bloody mutiny. It will be filled with courage in the midst of chaos, until the moment she meets "ElFaier" and her life changed forever.
Felicia Mendez (Erika de la Rosa)
Daughter of Mexican, born in California, owns the "Acapulco Bar" a pleasant bar, decent, family atmosphere. She married once, but their marriage was hell. From that moment she sought support from the church next to Father Domingo. When she meets Carlos, she falls for him. She is willing to do anything to win his love and a family she has dreamed of, even if necessary deal with the enemy.
Maria Solis Martinez (Liz Gallardo)
She is the younger sister of Carlos Martinez. She also entered the United States as illegal and feel an immense gratitude to Carlos because he took her into his home during the early years that Maria lived in Los Angeles until she fell in love and married a Mexican who did have "papers" and he became a citizen. At the beginning of the story, we see that Maria is the image of a Hispanic mother, patient fighter and loving, but also very protective, able to become a lioness at a time when someone messes with your husband or with her two small children . She works as a waitress in the bar Acapulco and always tries to help her brother Carlos and his nephew Luis. She is married to Rudolfo a cousin Felicia, who works as a musician in the same Bar Acapulco. Always supportive and loyal not only with relatives, also with friends.
Erick Vilalta- (Juan Pablo Llano)
He was born in the United States and has great respect for his nation, but also feel very proud of his Hispanic origin. Ephraim is a very attractive, friendly and generous teacher. He becomes captivated by the beauty and intelligence of Adela, Ephraim will convince her to enter her classes and get the bachelor's degree. Between them will start the relationship of a teacher who is not only in love with his student, but who really believes in the potential and boost Adela to study more and more encouragement. Adela only sees him as a friend, she will be very vulnerable and Ephraim try to gain a place in her heart, no cheating or manipulation, but with sincerity and charm.
Joseph "Fang" Giménez- (Julio Bracho)
Joseph, alias "The Fang" is a legend among Hispanic gangs. Although he is in prison serving a life sentence for his brutal crimes, Joseph is the leader of La Colonia. He is a Big Shot of the gang and has a circle of trust, among which Rodrigo, "ElFaier", the eldest son of Carlos
Rudolfo Solis (Raul Arrieta)
Husband of Maria. Works in Bar Acapulco, playing the accordion in a band of northern music. Although he worships Maria and their two children, Rudolfo hides a terrible secret of infidelity...
Isabel Garrido (Ahrid Hannaley)
At the beginning of the story lives north of Mexico, in Sonora. She thought her dream had come true when she met Rudolfo in one of the trips he made to Mexico as a musician. Not knowing he was a married man, his lover Isabel was leading him to have a double life.
Fernando Lopez (Willy Noriega)
He is in a neighboring gang of Carlos and Luis. He is an attractive young man, but arrogant, disrespectful, outrageous and criminal. He is always armed and enjoys boasting of the things you get with the easy money from their crimes. He looks new and very showy driving cars, which he uses to seduce the most beautiful and sought-after girls of the neighborhood. Willy share "last secret" with Felicia, who constantly harasses her silence. He feels resentment and jealousy towards Carlos, knowing that Willy is a bad influence on his son. He will make Felicia's life a hell.
Sanders Jaicob (Keller Worthman)
Is an attractive American journalist, passionate about nature, tourism, culture, language, food and everything that comes from the Hispanic world, especially the Mexican. Jacob is wealthy, but has a single character. His greatest passion is a magazine which he founded. He will meet Carlos for his work as a gardener at his luxury mansion in Malibu. At the beginning of the story, Jacob begins to feel that he is leaving, his wife is bored of his frivolities and fight because of his youngest daughter, Susy, not the same, giving others more humble values. What Jacob does not know is that his relationship with the Martinez family will become more stronger.
Deborah Sanders Perales- (Mercedes Molto)
Is the wife of Jacob and the eyes of the world, is the very picture of a Malibu housewife: always elegant, beautiful, platinum blonde and lovely. But Deborah was actually born in Mexico and is ashamed of her Hispanic roots.
Susy Sanders (Guiner Oka)
Daughter of Jacob and Deborah. Is a beautiful teenage girl with an angelic air, but the cheerful and very popular among his friends. At the beginning of the story, we see that Susy is fed up by arguments between their parents. She feels more identified by the humanist vision of Jacob, but those so complicated issues of equality and rights of Hispanics is not taken seriously. Young finally only interested in fun. Susy will be a bright character. We see a story of young love, where the greatest obstacle is the difference of social classes, but told in a modern, current form and above all very real.
Freddy Lopez (Santiago Yépez)
Honduran and undocumented immigrant. Is a very poor, shy and grateful, who Carlos hired as a laborer when buying the truck. Through Santiago, he knows the division between Mexicans and Central Americans, who are in a lower rank, crowded living longer and even more marginal than those Mexicans living areas.
Juana Garcia (Ximena Ayala)
Juana will become the best friend of Adela when working in both houses in nearby Malibu. She will work for an employer that will make her life hell in the midst of physical and psychological abuse. Juana shut up long torment of those who fall victim until Adela gives her the courage to denounce their employer.
Nick Hernandez (Kevin Aponte)
Is a neighbor of Luis. Unlike him and the rest of neighborhood friends, Nick is a good student, computer expert and a very promising future. It is the only graduate school, but despite his efforts and his high grades, Nick's dreams will be crushed to not be accepted in any university for being an illegal immigrant. Nick will join the social struggle of so many young people to achieve the "Dream Act".
Sharon López- (Alma Itzel)
At the beginning of this story, this beautiful, sexy young problematic neighbor and girlfriend of Luis, without actually having a serious relationship with him. They are studying at the same school, but Sharon is not interested in attending classes, but to escape and go to parties and live the adrenaline pumping in high-risk situations, along with his older brother Willy, who is a criminal. Sharon will reflect Hispanic girls who use their beauty to conquer the mighty men of neighborhoods and get fame, respect and privileges through them.
Cristóbal Méndez- (Jose G. Cortines)
Sexy police, correct, very virile, law abiding. Is the only brother of Felicia, who he protects with devotion. And will the need to protect that makes Christopher waver in his commitment to the laws, when Felicia begins to preach against Adela.
Laura Morales- (Rosalinda Rodríguez)
She is the mother of Adela, lives in Lancaster, a city that is some distance from East Los Angeles. Laura is an alcoholic and somewhat promiscuous. Has a love-hate relationship with men from when Adela's father abandoned her. The blows of life have led her to be pragmatic and selfish. Adela always neglected and out of the house to her other son, Matthias, when he was just a teenager and began committing crimes in gangs.
Matias Morales Carlos Ferro
Matthias is an attractive gang, is the older brother of Adela and was the one who took her to join gangs when they were very young and adrift after the death of his grandmother, and his mother never dealt with them. Laura, her mother, Matthias finished pouring into the streets when he was a teenager. Since then he began a criminal career as a member of the colony, but he never stopped feeling guilty for having initiated her younger sister in the gang world. Adela is his greatest affection.
Yei Ortega (Andres Zuñiga)
Gang dangerous, ambitious, unscrupulous. At the beginning of the story is at the heart of La Colonia in the city of Lancaster, the group to which they belong Adela and his brother Matthias. Yei has always felt resentment toward Adela because it's not gang of those women who are willing to sexually please the members in the bargain. He will be Adela's enemy throughout the story.
Gacho- (Pipe Betancourt)
Prisoner who is a member of la Colonia and Faier right hand while in prison. Although he is a dangerous man, he is very obedient to the Faier, keeps you respect and fear.eps you respect and fear.
I am copying Deb's cast list of Bajo el Mismo Cielo from the comments to last week's post and putting them in this week's post to help folks get a handle on the characters. Thanks, Deb. Enjoy your week!
Bajo el mismo cielo"... the cast
(this is a rough google translation, the original article is here with photos)
(this may help us get oriented at the start, but be warned, this may contain too much information)
Carlos Martinez (Gabriel Porras)
An undocumented Mexican father and widower who lives in Los Angeles working as a gardener who came to America with his late wife Teresa and her eldest son, Rodrigo, who disappeared years ago so rebellious. Carlos is an honest fighter man who leads a double life: during the day is a docile gardener who works tirelessly to support his younger son Luis, but at night becomes a gallant father who goes out into the most violent areas Los Angeles to find Rodrigo. An isolated and quiet man who tries to go unnoticed not be deported by the "migra". Carlos's life will shift when he meets Adela and fall in love. What Charles does not know is that Adela also represents the only hatred he harbors in his heart hatred for the gang snatched his eldest son.
Morales Adela (Maria Elisa Camargo)
Young Mexican who came to the United States as a child, accompanied by her mother, older brother and grandmother. Adela grew up in a dysfunctional home. Her mother was and still is an alcoholic and promiscuous woman. Her grandmother was the one who took care of her, but when the old lady died, Adela was a teenager and went adrift. Together with her brother Matthias, she joined the gang, where she found acceptance and the family that her mother always denied. Behind that facade of tough woman, a lonely-heart be hidden. Her desire is to start a new life. You will meet the man of her life and her love for him will be tested when their common past intersect unexpectedly.
Luis Martinez (Alejandro Speitzer)
He is the younger son of Carlos and is an "American citizen". He is a nice young man and cheerful, but he has grown on his own, because his father works hard and never home. Despite his attractive Hispanic features, Luis rejects Mexican customs. Luis hatred against poverty grows when Carlos forcing him to work as a gardener at the house where a wealthy and beautiful adolescent lives. Ruled by their hormones and their impulsiveness, Luis makes up the unimaginable to win the girl.
Rodrigo Martinez (Luis Ernesto Franco)
He is the eldest son of Charles and Teresa, with whom he crossed the border was just a child. Rodrigo sought to joining La Colonia, a gang from the neighborhood to which he considered his real family. He walked away from Carlos and never reappeared. At the beginning of the story, we meet Rodrigo in prison only by his nickname: The Faier, a mysterious prisoner, violent, imposing, tall, muscular, full of sex appeal. Although always looks safe and unforgiving, basically he feels very lonely. However, the façade of a heartless being is going to collapse when he meets a beautiful nurse who achieved to move him from day one.
Greicy Cordero (Kendra Santa Cruz)
At the beginning of the story, we meet Greicy as a shy, beautiful young woman who hides her beauty behind large spectacles and simplicity of dress. She just graduated as a nursing assistant and after seeking work in a host of health institutions, had no choice but to accept a job in one of the most dangerous jails in Los Angeles. Her first day of work will be a nightmare, because you will be trying to cure many prisoners at a time, after a bloody mutiny. It will be filled with courage in the midst of chaos, until the moment she meets "ElFaier" and her life changed forever.
Felicia Mendez (Erika de la Rosa)
Daughter of Mexican, born in California, owns the "Acapulco Bar" a pleasant bar, decent, family atmosphere. She married once, but their marriage was hell. From that moment she sought support from the church next to Father Domingo. When she meets Carlos, she falls for him. She is willing to do anything to win his love and a family she has dreamed of, even if necessary deal with the enemy.
Maria Solis Martinez (Liz Gallardo)
She is the younger sister of Carlos Martinez. She also entered the United States as illegal and feel an immense gratitude to Carlos because he took her into his home during the early years that Maria lived in Los Angeles until she fell in love and married a Mexican who did have "papers" and he became a citizen. At the beginning of the story, we see that Maria is the image of a Hispanic mother, patient fighter and loving, but also very protective, able to become a lioness at a time when someone messes with your husband or with her two small children . She works as a waitress in the bar Acapulco and always tries to help her brother Carlos and his nephew Luis. She is married to Rudolfo a cousin Felicia, who works as a musician in the same Bar Acapulco. Always supportive and loyal not only with relatives, also with friends.
Erick Vilalta- (Juan Pablo Llano)
He was born in the United States and has great respect for his nation, but also feel very proud of his Hispanic origin. Ephraim is a very attractive, friendly and generous teacher. He becomes captivated by the beauty and intelligence of Adela, Ephraim will convince her to enter her classes and get the bachelor's degree. Between them will start the relationship of a teacher who is not only in love with his student, but who really believes in the potential and boost Adela to study more and more encouragement. Adela only sees him as a friend, she will be very vulnerable and Ephraim try to gain a place in her heart, no cheating or manipulation, but with sincerity and charm.
Joseph "Fang" Giménez- (Julio Bracho)
Joseph, alias "The Fang" is a legend among Hispanic gangs. Although he is in prison serving a life sentence for his brutal crimes, Joseph is the leader of La Colonia. He is a Big Shot of the gang and has a circle of trust, among which Rodrigo, "ElFaier", the eldest son of Carlos
Rudolfo Solis (Raul Arrieta)
Husband of Maria. Works in Bar Acapulco, playing the accordion in a band of northern music. Although he worships Maria and their two children, Rudolfo hides a terrible secret of infidelity...
Isabel Garrido (Ahrid Hannaley)
At the beginning of the story lives north of Mexico, in Sonora. She thought her dream had come true when she met Rudolfo in one of the trips he made to Mexico as a musician. Not knowing he was a married man, his lover Isabel was leading him to have a double life.
Fernando Lopez (Willy Noriega)
He is in a neighboring gang of Carlos and Luis. He is an attractive young man, but arrogant, disrespectful, outrageous and criminal. He is always armed and enjoys boasting of the things you get with the easy money from their crimes. He looks new and very showy driving cars, which he uses to seduce the most beautiful and sought-after girls of the neighborhood. Willy share "last secret" with Felicia, who constantly harasses her silence. He feels resentment and jealousy towards Carlos, knowing that Willy is a bad influence on his son. He will make Felicia's life a hell.
Sanders Jaicob (Keller Worthman)
Is an attractive American journalist, passionate about nature, tourism, culture, language, food and everything that comes from the Hispanic world, especially the Mexican. Jacob is wealthy, but has a single character. His greatest passion is a magazine which he founded. He will meet Carlos for his work as a gardener at his luxury mansion in Malibu. At the beginning of the story, Jacob begins to feel that he is leaving, his wife is bored of his frivolities and fight because of his youngest daughter, Susy, not the same, giving others more humble values. What Jacob does not know is that his relationship with the Martinez family will become more stronger.
Deborah Sanders Perales- (Mercedes Molto)
Is the wife of Jacob and the eyes of the world, is the very picture of a Malibu housewife: always elegant, beautiful, platinum blonde and lovely. But Deborah was actually born in Mexico and is ashamed of her Hispanic roots.
Susy Sanders (Guiner Oka)
Daughter of Jacob and Deborah. Is a beautiful teenage girl with an angelic air, but the cheerful and very popular among his friends. At the beginning of the story, we see that Susy is fed up by arguments between their parents. She feels more identified by the humanist vision of Jacob, but those so complicated issues of equality and rights of Hispanics is not taken seriously. Young finally only interested in fun. Susy will be a bright character. We see a story of young love, where the greatest obstacle is the difference of social classes, but told in a modern, current form and above all very real.
Freddy Lopez (Santiago Yépez)
Honduran and undocumented immigrant. Is a very poor, shy and grateful, who Carlos hired as a laborer when buying the truck. Through Santiago, he knows the division between Mexicans and Central Americans, who are in a lower rank, crowded living longer and even more marginal than those Mexicans living areas.
Juana Garcia (Ximena Ayala)
Juana will become the best friend of Adela when working in both houses in nearby Malibu. She will work for an employer that will make her life hell in the midst of physical and psychological abuse. Juana shut up long torment of those who fall victim until Adela gives her the courage to denounce their employer.
Nick Hernandez (Kevin Aponte)
Is a neighbor of Luis. Unlike him and the rest of neighborhood friends, Nick is a good student, computer expert and a very promising future. It is the only graduate school, but despite his efforts and his high grades, Nick's dreams will be crushed to not be accepted in any university for being an illegal immigrant. Nick will join the social struggle of so many young people to achieve the "Dream Act".
Sharon López- (Alma Itzel)
At the beginning of this story, this beautiful, sexy young problematic neighbor and girlfriend of Luis, without actually having a serious relationship with him. They are studying at the same school, but Sharon is not interested in attending classes, but to escape and go to parties and live the adrenaline pumping in high-risk situations, along with his older brother Willy, who is a criminal. Sharon will reflect Hispanic girls who use their beauty to conquer the mighty men of neighborhoods and get fame, respect and privileges through them.
Cristóbal Méndez- (Jose G. Cortines)
Sexy police, correct, very virile, law abiding. Is the only brother of Felicia, who he protects with devotion. And will the need to protect that makes Christopher waver in his commitment to the laws, when Felicia begins to preach against Adela.
Laura Morales- (Rosalinda Rodríguez)
She is the mother of Adela, lives in Lancaster, a city that is some distance from East Los Angeles. Laura is an alcoholic and somewhat promiscuous. Has a love-hate relationship with men from when Adela's father abandoned her. The blows of life have led her to be pragmatic and selfish. Adela always neglected and out of the house to her other son, Matthias, when he was just a teenager and began committing crimes in gangs.
Matias Morales Carlos Ferro
Matthias is an attractive gang, is the older brother of Adela and was the one who took her to join gangs when they were very young and adrift after the death of his grandmother, and his mother never dealt with them. Laura, her mother, Matthias finished pouring into the streets when he was a teenager. Since then he began a criminal career as a member of the colony, but he never stopped feeling guilty for having initiated her younger sister in the gang world. Adela is his greatest affection.
Yei Ortega (Andres Zuñiga)
Gang dangerous, ambitious, unscrupulous. At the beginning of the story is at the heart of La Colonia in the city of Lancaster, the group to which they belong Adela and his brother Matthias. Yei has always felt resentment toward Adela because it's not gang of those women who are willing to sexually please the members in the bargain. He will be Adela's enemy throughout the story.
Gacho- (Pipe Betancourt)
Prisoner who is a member of la Colonia and Faier right hand while in prison. Although he is a dangerous man, he is very obedient to the Faier, keeps you respect and fear.eps you respect and fear.
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Bajo el Mismo Cielo... monday, epi 5
Noemi, in her fumbling way, kidnaps Luis and Adela, he's in the trunk, Adela is driving, while Noemi snorts some coke and waves her gun around, she reveals two things,
José Giménez, the Colonia gang leader, is her father.
'el Faier' (we know him as Rodrigo) called for the hit on Matias.
Adela drives the car into some trees, and tries to escape with Luis but Noemi gets the drop on them, but slowly dies, I think Adela said it was an overdose, she wipes the car clean of their prints and takes off.
a middle class couple stopped by earlier asking if they needed help, we see them later in a nice house, I think this is Jaicob and Deborah Sanders, in the character descriptions above. (with daughter Susy)
Rodrigo catches up with Greicy and the guys that grabbed her, takes them all on and wins, then takes them somewhere and really works them over, later they are brought to the prison hospital so Greicy can work on then, ha, but the warden lady smells a rat, but we see Rodrigo calls all the shots.
Felicia pushes her way into Carlos' house looking for her cell phone, while Carlos is away beating on Tuercas (who bought his truck from Adela), he realizes that Carlos is undocumented, and really can't do anything about it.
Carlos is called into school to answer to Luis' absence, Luis is suspended for 3 days, and I think gets the boot if he doesn't straighten up.
as Adela and Luis make there way home, he's begun to see her as a good person, especially when she tried to save Noemi, and for saving him, she asks about this brother and finds out his name is Rodrigo, but no, she doesn't know any Rodrigo's in the Colonias.
Adela arranges to meet her mom so they can skip town, but is almost met by the Colonia guys, she suspects her mother gave her up, but we see Laura at home with a gun to her head.
Luis and Adela arrive at Carlos' house, Carlos is ticked, gets Felicia's phone back from Adela, Luis tries to explain.
since Carlos knows where Tuercas lives, he's done with Adela, Luis wants her to stay, and as they talk, she skips, but leaves a note saying she'll help if she can.
and it looks like Adela is on a mission to get 'el Faier'!
Noemi, in her fumbling way, kidnaps Luis and Adela, he's in the trunk, Adela is driving, while Noemi snorts some coke and waves her gun around, she reveals two things,
José Giménez, the Colonia gang leader, is her father.
'el Faier' (we know him as Rodrigo) called for the hit on Matias.
Adela drives the car into some trees, and tries to escape with Luis but Noemi gets the drop on them, but slowly dies, I think Adela said it was an overdose, she wipes the car clean of their prints and takes off.
a middle class couple stopped by earlier asking if they needed help, we see them later in a nice house, I think this is Jaicob and Deborah Sanders, in the character descriptions above. (with daughter Susy)
Rodrigo catches up with Greicy and the guys that grabbed her, takes them all on and wins, then takes them somewhere and really works them over, later they are brought to the prison hospital so Greicy can work on then, ha, but the warden lady smells a rat, but we see Rodrigo calls all the shots.
Felicia pushes her way into Carlos' house looking for her cell phone, while Carlos is away beating on Tuercas (who bought his truck from Adela), he realizes that Carlos is undocumented, and really can't do anything about it.
Carlos is called into school to answer to Luis' absence, Luis is suspended for 3 days, and I think gets the boot if he doesn't straighten up.
as Adela and Luis make there way home, he's begun to see her as a good person, especially when she tried to save Noemi, and for saving him, she asks about this brother and finds out his name is Rodrigo, but no, she doesn't know any Rodrigo's in the Colonias.
Adela arranges to meet her mom so they can skip town, but is almost met by the Colonia guys, she suspects her mother gave her up, but we see Laura at home with a gun to her head.
Luis and Adela arrive at Carlos' house, Carlos is ticked, gets Felicia's phone back from Adela, Luis tries to explain.
since Carlos knows where Tuercas lives, he's done with Adela, Luis wants her to stay, and as they talk, she skips, but leaves a note saying she'll help if she can.
and it looks like Adela is on a mission to get 'el Faier'!
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: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 1:53:00 AM EDT
Avenida...
ooo,
Carminha has figured out Nina is Rita, and feels like a fool,
Rita has her pictures of Carminha and Max and thinks it's over, but first a little fun,
the rest of the family has left for the beach to help Jorgito recover,
and Carmina puts drugs in her juice and has Nina taste it.
ooo,
Carminha has figured out Nina is Rita, and feels like a fool,
Rita has her pictures of Carminha and Max and thinks it's over, but first a little fun,
the rest of the family has left for the beach to help Jorgito recover,
and Carmina puts drugs in her juice and has Nina taste it.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:04:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:04:00 AM EDT
Bajo
Thanks for the quick recap, Deb. Well. I'm certainly glad to see the last of Noemi!
I take back what I said before. Felicia is not that good of a person. She can't wait to have Luis "graduate" and get him out. I assume she means high school; I doubt she'd wait for a college degree. And, cardinal sin, she doesn't like Flag! There's DEFINITELY something going on between Feli and the punk who's the brother of Luis' girlfriend, forgot her name and her brother's name.
So El Faier beats the crap out of multiple guys multiple times and doesn't even bruise his fists. Please. Anybody know if Faier means anything? It wasn't in the dictionary, unless I didn't spell it right.
Well, I guess Telemundo just can't resist having a rich couple in there after all. The nice husband and his snobby wife are certainly well off. Their daughter Susy's boyfriend Brian is a major jerk. The blonde snob was railing about Carlos not showing up to do their gardening. So there's a connection there.
Laura is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer. She actually thought they wouldn't hurt Adela if she agreed to meet her. And now Adela believes her mother just gave her up to save her own skin.
I'm not feeling the prison sequences. The Greicy character with the glasses who, I suppose, will come to soften Rodrigo's cold heart is a total cliché.
Thanks for the quick recap, Deb. Well. I'm certainly glad to see the last of Noemi!
I take back what I said before. Felicia is not that good of a person. She can't wait to have Luis "graduate" and get him out. I assume she means high school; I doubt she'd wait for a college degree. And, cardinal sin, she doesn't like Flag! There's DEFINITELY something going on between Feli and the punk who's the brother of Luis' girlfriend, forgot her name and her brother's name.
So El Faier beats the crap out of multiple guys multiple times and doesn't even bruise his fists. Please. Anybody know if Faier means anything? It wasn't in the dictionary, unless I didn't spell it right.
Well, I guess Telemundo just can't resist having a rich couple in there after all. The nice husband and his snobby wife are certainly well off. Their daughter Susy's boyfriend Brian is a major jerk. The blonde snob was railing about Carlos not showing up to do their gardening. So there's a connection there.
Laura is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer. She actually thought they wouldn't hurt Adela if she agreed to meet her. And now Adela believes her mother just gave her up to save her own skin.
I'm not feeling the prison sequences. The Greicy character with the glasses who, I suppose, will come to soften Rodrigo's cold heart is a total cliché.
BAJO
Thanks VERY much, Deb and Jean, for (re)posting the character descriptions. And thanks VERY VERY much, Deb, for the recap. I need all the help I can get.
After watching the first episode of Bajo, I wasn't sure I liked it--the Carlos character seemed too soppy--but I think it's getting more interesting. Given Adela's understandable hatred of El Faier/Rodrigo, I'm curious to see how she and Carlos will succeed together. Not whether they'll succeed together--this is a telenovela, after all, so I'm sure they will--but just how the writers will pull it off.
Apparently liking Flag is the touchstone here: Adela proved she was good because she gave Flag half her sandwich in spite of being hungry herself, and Felicia lives up to my early distrust by not liking Flag.
Novelera, I agree that the prison scene with Superman (aka El Faier) beating up a bunch of thugs without getting a scratch was a bit much, and the budding romance with Greicy has telenovela cliché written all over it. Still, I'm enjoying the novela as a whole, and El Faier is nice to look at. :-)
Thanks VERY much, Deb and Jean, for (re)posting the character descriptions. And thanks VERY VERY much, Deb, for the recap. I need all the help I can get.
After watching the first episode of Bajo, I wasn't sure I liked it--the Carlos character seemed too soppy--but I think it's getting more interesting. Given Adela's understandable hatred of El Faier/Rodrigo, I'm curious to see how she and Carlos will succeed together. Not whether they'll succeed together--this is a telenovela, after all, so I'm sure they will--but just how the writers will pull it off.
Apparently liking Flag is the touchstone here: Adela proved she was good because she gave Flag half her sandwich in spite of being hungry herself, and Felicia lives up to my early distrust by not liking Flag.
Novelera, I agree that the prison scene with Superman (aka El Faier) beating up a bunch of thugs without getting a scratch was a bit much, and the budding romance with Greicy has telenovela cliché written all over it. Still, I'm enjoying the novela as a whole, and El Faier is nice to look at. :-)
Bajo. Thanks, Deb, Novelera and Juanita! I was surprised that they got rid of Noemí so early in the tn. That wrecking the car to save one's life is interesting. Years ago it was featured in a movie or tv show, and then in real life a woman whose car was highjacked by some guy who was going to kill her to keep the car; she remembered the movie or tv show and wrecked the car to save her own life. Very clever and daring of Adela. "Feier" i think is just a Spanish phonetic spelling of Fire, but I could be wrong. Despite the ease and lack of hand damage by Rodrigo, was anyone else very satisfied to see him beat up those would-be rapists and then beat them up again? The Carlos/Luis/Sanders family plot line has been telegraphed to us and it to is right out of a 1930s movie. Nasty, snobby "aristocratic" Mrs. Sanders (believe it or not, I have known some upper-class Latin Americans like that) says their gardener needs extra help; Carlos says that until Luis shapes up, he has to help with the gardening after school; the Sanders daughter has a creepy boyfriend, etc., etc.
Bajo. Also, we learned that Felicia's abusive husband is dead. A connection to the blackmail from Wally?
BAJO
SpanProf, I also got the vibe that Luis will meet Susy, and we'll be treated to lots of hissy fits by the snobby blonde mother.
SpanProf, I also got the vibe that Luis will meet Susy, and we'll be treated to lots of hissy fits by the snobby blonde mother.
BAJO
SpanProf, I also got the vibe that Luis will meet Susy, and we'll be treated to lots of hissy fits by the snobby blonde mother.
SpanProf, I also got the vibe that Luis will meet Susy, and we'll be treated to lots of hissy fits by the snobby blonde mother.
BAJO
Thanks for the idea about Faier being Fire. That never occurred to me. I was looking for some obscure word in Spanish, maybe an animal's name.
Thanks for the idea about Faier being Fire. That never occurred to me. I was looking for some obscure word in Spanish, maybe an animal's name.
AVENIDA BRASIL
WOW, well, things are about to heat up now.
Carminha is really going off her cabeza, isn't she? (As an aside, I find it hilarious that she thinks putting on her white sunglasses means she'd be Unrecognizable to anyone who knows her LOL All decked out in white, blinded-up like crazy,, long blond hair and a white car)
Max looks incredibly nervous, doesn't he?
I feel really sorry for Debora. Jorgito is toying with her too much. Hope she gets together with Iran, they're cute together, and he's a good boy (although I HATED the SuEllen shaming incident)
~ Wee Rita
WOW, well, things are about to heat up now.
Carminha is really going off her cabeza, isn't she? (As an aside, I find it hilarious that she thinks putting on her white sunglasses means she'd be Unrecognizable to anyone who knows her LOL All decked out in white, blinded-up like crazy,, long blond hair and a white car)
Max looks incredibly nervous, doesn't he?
I feel really sorry for Debora. Jorgito is toying with her too much. Hope she gets together with Iran, they're cute together, and he's a good boy (although I HATED the SuEllen shaming incident)
~ Wee Rita
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 3:12:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 3:12:00 PM EDT
Bajo: Novelera: And don't forget that English vowels are actually diphthongs--at least as far as Spanish phonetics are concerned. :)
AVENIDA BRASIL
Wee Rita--
I hear you, loud and clear. I'm rather disappointed that AveB hasn't generated more conversation here (I keep checking), but it is the second go-around in about a year--unusual for Telemundo.
I'm still a couple of episodes behind and looking forward to Carminha's and Max's downfall. Also, reading the old recaps and comments--there's still a lot to reveal before this ends--namely Carminha's backstory and how it made her into this monster hiding behind white sunglasses.
Wee Rita--
I hear you, loud and clear. I'm rather disappointed that AveB hasn't generated more conversation here (I keep checking), but it is the second go-around in about a year--unusual for Telemundo.
I'm still a couple of episodes behind and looking forward to Carminha's and Max's downfall. Also, reading the old recaps and comments--there's still a lot to reveal before this ends--namely Carminha's backstory and how it made her into this monster hiding behind white sunglasses.
BAJO
I caught a glimpse of Carlos Ferro in one of the scenes last night. Carlos Ferro was Lazaro in Reina de Corazones. I liked him from the first time I saw him in El Talisman.
CAN ANYONE tell me who his character is in Bajo and is he a good guy or not?
I caught a glimpse of Carlos Ferro in one of the scenes last night. Carlos Ferro was Lazaro in Reina de Corazones. I liked him from the first time I saw him in El Talisman.
CAN ANYONE tell me who his character is in Bajo and is he a good guy or not?
BAJO
Never Mind.....I just saw the complete list of all the characters. I kind of wish I were watching this with you, but 5 telenovelas per night would be overkill. Sorry.
REINA DE CORAZONES
If anyone is interested, Telemundo has posted the full episodes on You Tub(e). Here is the link to Cap One. It doesn't take long to get drawn into this wacky send up of everything Mafioso/CIA film noir, including the terrifically high body count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqMgqcMiI0
Never Mind.....I just saw the complete list of all the characters. I kind of wish I were watching this with you, but 5 telenovelas per night would be overkill. Sorry.
REINA DE CORAZONES
If anyone is interested, Telemundo has posted the full episodes on You Tub(e). Here is the link to Cap One. It doesn't take long to get drawn into this wacky send up of everything Mafioso/CIA film noir, including the terrifically high body count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqMgqcMiI0
Anita, re REINA DE CORAZONES
Thanks! That show was hilarious! So smart at parodying the genre while still pulling you irresistibly in. And Xavier Bolivar was the ultimate comic book hero, guy was invincible.
~ Wee Rita
Thanks! That show was hilarious! So smart at parodying the genre while still pulling you irresistibly in. And Xavier Bolivar was the ultimate comic book hero, guy was invincible.
~ Wee Rita
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 4:54:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 4:54:00 PM EDT
AVENIDA BRASIL
Anita - yes, I keep checking back here too. I'm loving this show and I'm surprised it doesn't seem to have attracted many Caray Caray viewers at all.
Re Carminhas back story.... My Spanish is not great , AT ALL, so I could be wrong, but wasn't there a comment made back in the beginning about her being a prostitute? If she was raised at the tiradero, and Lucinda, Nilo, and the doll hospital guy whose name escapes me at the moment feel guilty about and/or responsible for her in some way, could there be an abuse/coercion story there? It is pretty dark, whatever it is. Girlfriend is loca!
~ Wee Rita
Anita - yes, I keep checking back here too. I'm loving this show and I'm surprised it doesn't seem to have attracted many Caray Caray viewers at all.
Re Carminhas back story.... My Spanish is not great , AT ALL, so I could be wrong, but wasn't there a comment made back in the beginning about her being a prostitute? If she was raised at the tiradero, and Lucinda, Nilo, and the doll hospital guy whose name escapes me at the moment feel guilty about and/or responsible for her in some way, could there be an abuse/coercion story there? It is pretty dark, whatever it is. Girlfriend is loca!
~ Wee Rita
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 4:59:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 4:59:00 PM EDT
Avenida Brasil
Wee Rita, I have dozens of Avenida Brasil episodes recorded and don't dare look at comments. It's really good. I just got too busy to watch it. I'm hoping to do so sometime.
Wee Rita, I have dozens of Avenida Brasil episodes recorded and don't dare look at comments. It's really good. I just got too busy to watch it. I'm hoping to do so sometime.
Still here, hanging around the WiFi. One last comment:I agree about el Faier being Fire and also I think Greicy is Gracie. The other nurse called her Grace at one point.
AVENIDA BRASIL
Wee Rita--There was some gossip about Carminha's past that included prostitution. I can't remember if she volunteered that information or not. In retelling her backstory to Nina, Carminha mentions becoming a model and when she started to become famous, the job required her to travel and so that is why she gave up Jorgito. She claimed she had all intentions of coming back for him. She also claims she left him with Mama Lucinda--she didn't "abandon" him. Being the liar she is, we won't know the truth until Mama L decides to talk.
Doll Hospital Guy's name is Santiago.
REINA
Javier was invincible because he was a Dragon.
Wee Rita--There was some gossip about Carminha's past that included prostitution. I can't remember if she volunteered that information or not. In retelling her backstory to Nina, Carminha mentions becoming a model and when she started to become famous, the job required her to travel and so that is why she gave up Jorgito. She claimed she had all intentions of coming back for him. She also claims she left him with Mama Lucinda--she didn't "abandon" him. Being the liar she is, we won't know the truth until Mama L decides to talk.
Doll Hospital Guy's name is Santiago.
REINA
Javier was invincible because he was a Dragon.
Anita~ Reina de Corazones was my first ever telenovela and Avenida Brasil is my second. I fear I've been spoiled!
Novelera~ It's worth persevering with!
~ Wee Rita
The showdown between Carminha and Nina/Rita was great! Spittle flying!
Novelera~ It's worth persevering with!
~ Wee Rita
The showdown between Carminha and Nina/Rita was great! Spittle flying!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:15:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:15:00 PM EDT
Loved Rodrigo and greicy scenes today even though I had scene the avance esclusivo multiple times. Rodrigo got very close to greicy while trying the meal she gave him. It looked like a sandwich. He is provoking/seducing her but he is playing with fire. (Pun intended) j
Bajo. Yay! Carlos and Adela got the truck back! ¡Qué alivio! And we see that they make a great team. Carlos is right. Adela is very lovely in her new hair-do and way of dressing--but I doubt very much if her transformation would fool the La colonia gang. Luis is right that Carlos and Adela are a lot alike--Luis is becoming pretty wise. Felicia definitely needs to find someone else. Also, the gang leader finally thinks of Noemí, when she's dead? In this episode we also find out how Jacob got to be wealthy--telecommunications and the stock market. I didn't think a journalist could really live that well, unless he inherited wealth, but this works too.
Bajo
thanks SpanProf!
and Jacob recognizes Noemi, reading about her death and wonders about the other two who were with her (will he investigate this as a journalist?) as the pretend gardener Luis oogles their daughter Susy while getting to know his future ?? mother-in-law. Loved how Jacob gave Brian the boot, not much to like about that guy.
Colonia #1 gives Rodrigo a task, kill Adela and you will once again be in my confidence.
love the scenes where Adela goes into tough mode and Carlos' eyes get real big,
and they kissed!
I think the Colonia leader on the streets is Jay Ortega played by Andrés Zúñiga who was in Senora Acero as the bad boyfriend 'La Empanada'.
thanks SpanProf!
and Jacob recognizes Noemi, reading about her death and wonders about the other two who were with her (will he investigate this as a journalist?) as the pretend gardener Luis oogles their daughter Susy while getting to know his future ?? mother-in-law. Loved how Jacob gave Brian the boot, not much to like about that guy.
Colonia #1 gives Rodrigo a task, kill Adela and you will once again be in my confidence.
love the scenes where Adela goes into tough mode and Carlos' eyes get real big,
and they kissed!
I think the Colonia leader on the streets is Jay Ortega played by Andrés Zúñiga who was in Senora Acero as the bad boyfriend 'La Empanada'.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 12:13:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 12:13:00 PM EDT
AVENIDA BRASIL
So, Carminha was boasting that she would have killed Nina, but Lucio was scared, even with a toy gun. I didn't really care for the "live burial" scene. Fortunately, it doesn't get used very often in telenovelas. I noticed the change in Max. He was not really into celebrating with Car the way she was declaring victory.
Wee Rita--You will have a very jaded view of telenovelas after these two, RdC and AveB. Most, with the exception of those produced by Carla Estrada, became rather maudlin and pedestrian, retelling the same story over and over.
There are people on this forum and the Univision pages who have been watching far longer than I have (6 years) who are frustrated with the quality of the stories, the writing, direction, and editing, but keep on watching to be part of a very erudite community.
There is a link on the sidebar with the results of an unofficial poll of favorite or recommended telenovelas. You might find some others that are accessible on the internet. A great many who watched, liked El Clon. I've not watched it.
You should NOT buy any telenovela in DVD unless you already know the story. There's no way they can be coherent after being cut say from 120 hours (episodes) to 14.
So, Carminha was boasting that she would have killed Nina, but Lucio was scared, even with a toy gun. I didn't really care for the "live burial" scene. Fortunately, it doesn't get used very often in telenovelas. I noticed the change in Max. He was not really into celebrating with Car the way she was declaring victory.
Wee Rita--You will have a very jaded view of telenovelas after these two, RdC and AveB. Most, with the exception of those produced by Carla Estrada, became rather maudlin and pedestrian, retelling the same story over and over.
There are people on this forum and the Univision pages who have been watching far longer than I have (6 years) who are frustrated with the quality of the stories, the writing, direction, and editing, but keep on watching to be part of a very erudite community.
There is a link on the sidebar with the results of an unofficial poll of favorite or recommended telenovelas. You might find some others that are accessible on the internet. A great many who watched, liked El Clon. I've not watched it.
You should NOT buy any telenovela in DVD unless you already know the story. There's no way they can be coherent after being cut say from 120 hours (episodes) to 14.
@Wee Rita
Normally, I agree with Anita, but my experience with abridged DVDs of telenovelas has been quite different from hers. Before I had ever seen a full-length telenovela, I was buying abridged versions on Amazon, and I enjoyed most of them a lot. I probably bought 20 or so, including Alborada, Dame Chocolate, La Fea Más Bella, Piel de Otoño, and Rubi, among others. It's true that at times I had head-scratching moments as I tried to make sense of plot elements that didn't hang together because of cuts, but even so, I still found the novelas immensely enjoyable and, for the most part, coherent. (Actually, I think lots of full-length novelas also have problems with coherence, and some go on for longer than they need to. :-) )
Normally, I agree with Anita, but my experience with abridged DVDs of telenovelas has been quite different from hers. Before I had ever seen a full-length telenovela, I was buying abridged versions on Amazon, and I enjoyed most of them a lot. I probably bought 20 or so, including Alborada, Dame Chocolate, La Fea Más Bella, Piel de Otoño, and Rubi, among others. It's true that at times I had head-scratching moments as I tried to make sense of plot elements that didn't hang together because of cuts, but even so, I still found the novelas immensely enjoyable and, for the most part, coherent. (Actually, I think lots of full-length novelas also have problems with coherence, and some go on for longer than they need to. :-) )
Thanks, amigas! :)
AVENIDA BRASIL
Whoa, Nellie! Carminha is so bad, she's crazy crazy mental. But Nina is now also off her rocker!
~ Wee Gina
AVENIDA BRASIL
Whoa, Nellie! Carminha is so bad, she's crazy crazy mental. But Nina is now also off her rocker!
~ Wee Gina
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 8:41:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 8:41:00 PM EDT
BAJO
I wasn't able to comment today. For some reason, and apparently this is the case also with Jean and NovelaMaven, who provide our weekly Telemundo link, the links on the sidebar no longer work using Internet Explorer. That's just crazy. I'm typing this in Foxfire.
I have Foxfire at home and am not sure I'm ready to download it to my work computer. I often post comments from work and am sorry I can't do that anymore in IE.
I scrolled down looking for an email that I thought used to be there for our BlogMom, but I could not find it to ask about this. I simply can't believe Carayers can no longer use that browser. I have IE11 here at home, and I can't access the links on IE at home either, so it doesn't appear to be a problem of the version.
I wasn't able to comment today. For some reason, and apparently this is the case also with Jean and NovelaMaven, who provide our weekly Telemundo link, the links on the sidebar no longer work using Internet Explorer. That's just crazy. I'm typing this in Foxfire.
I have Foxfire at home and am not sure I'm ready to download it to my work computer. I often post comments from work and am sorry I can't do that anymore in IE.
I scrolled down looking for an email that I thought used to be there for our BlogMom, but I could not find it to ask about this. I simply can't believe Carayers can no longer use that browser. I have IE11 here at home, and I can't access the links on IE at home either, so it doesn't appear to be a problem of the version.
novelera, it's caray at mappamundi.com (at/near the bottom of the pink square) but I'll pass this info on to Jane and my tech guy. If anyone else is also having this problem (well, not in Chrome, we know they don't work in Chrome and that's a Google issue, not a blog issue) feel free to email Jane or myself (the email address is in my profile) with as detailed a description as you can of what happens when you try the links.
Bajo. Novelera: Sorry to hear about your internet link problem. I missed your (and others') summaries and comments today!
Thanks, Diva! I just re-read my comment and saw that I typed Foxfire instead of Firefox. Sheesh! That's the browser I'm using right now.
This problem is tough for Telemundo viewers because we don't have a post every day. The Univisión daily recaps show up day after day, obscuring the one Telemundo area that's for the whole week. So we really depend on the link on the sidebar to get to our area for discussion.
The thing that's weird is that everything worked fine, even late Monday and Tuesday during the day. I posted something about Bajo using IE very late Monday and opened Caray in IE Tuesday at work, link was fine, and posted again. Today- Wednesday - when I was at work, the link would not work. I sent an emergency email to Jean and NovelaMaven. They responded that they can't get the links on the sidebar in IE either.
I knew about Chrome and have never used it.
This problem is tough for Telemundo viewers because we don't have a post every day. The Univisión daily recaps show up day after day, obscuring the one Telemundo area that's for the whole week. So we really depend on the link on the sidebar to get to our area for discussion.
The thing that's weird is that everything worked fine, even late Monday and Tuesday during the day. I posted something about Bajo using IE very late Monday and opened Caray in IE Tuesday at work, link was fine, and posted again. Today- Wednesday - when I was at work, the link would not work. I sent an emergency email to Jean and NovelaMaven. They responded that they can't get the links on the sidebar in IE either.
I knew about Chrome and have never used it.
novelera,
My tech guy is stumped. He's noticing the main page takes a long time to load and the links aren't active until it's done, but they're all working right now. Here's a bit of a workaround for you
http://caraycaray.blogspot.com/search/label/telemundo
should always take you to the most recent telemundo posts, but it won't go back as far as the sidebar feed. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, but maybe if we hear more from others having the same problem, it will help us figure out what's going on.
My tech guy is stumped. He's noticing the main page takes a long time to load and the links aren't active until it's done, but they're all working right now. Here's a bit of a workaround for you
http://caraycaray.blogspot.com/search/label/telemundo
should always take you to the most recent telemundo posts, but it won't go back as far as the sidebar feed. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, but maybe if we hear more from others having the same problem, it will help us figure out what's going on.
Bajo el Mismo Cielo... wednesday, epi 7
(also known as "it's a small world")
Rodrigo wants sex, Greicy wants love, so he doesn't force her, she opts out of him protecting her, but later he comes to her and says, perdoname, will this be romantic enough?
Jacob pardons Luis and even pays him for the work, since Susy is clueless, and what did boyfriend Brian do on their video chat?
Carlos and Adela (er known to Carlos his friends as Mati from the tat on her arm) swing by to pick up Luis, Adela recognizes Jacob and tries to hide by looking away, but gets introduced anyway, she later tells Luis that he is the guy that stopped to help them when Noemi was poking a gun in their faces.
they stop by a block party where Adela sings a note longer than marachi band member and wins a sombrero, Luis couldn't do it and won a jolt from a portable electrocution machine. Luis asks Carlos about kissing Adela, Carlos says it was an accident, ya right?
Felicia is working her charms (if she had any) on Maria to bring brother Carlos into her home in exchange for getting Rudy to get off the "you gave our savings to your brother for a truck he doesn't have" record and get him to start paying the bills again, Maria looks through the paperwork but her daughter shows her some other stashed away stuff, are these receipts for transferring money? Rudy says it's a cousin in Mexico, Maria says you don't have a cousin in that town but he brushes it off, like the cousin Mati that you didn't know you had.
Rodrigo's man on the streets comes to see him, no luck on Adela, didn't know she was the #1's daughter.
Willy visits Felecia at the bar, he definitely has something on her, but Felecia manages to pass him off to her bouncer.
Carlos and son drop Adela off at the hotel where she is staying (not), Luis says she has no money, Carlos goes in to check it out, finds her in the storage room talks her into coming home with him, but first some conditions, no kissing, no romantic anything, just amigos, ya.
Carlos gives her his bedroom, ut oh, do we see some pillow sniffing as Adela drops off to sleep, feeling safe for once. Carlos is up and down all night, but is woken early by Luis (for probably the first time in his life) who is eager to get to work (you know, where Susy lives)
Felicia gets a call, from someone who sees her ready for bed, calls her a murderer, she doesn't seem to recognize the voice, but locks her bedroom door and pulls out a knife.
Maria drops by to see Carlos, who is accidentally waking up Adela, or covering her up, or trying not to touch her, or...
(also known as "it's a small world")
Rodrigo wants sex, Greicy wants love, so he doesn't force her, she opts out of him protecting her, but later he comes to her and says, perdoname, will this be romantic enough?
Jacob pardons Luis and even pays him for the work, since Susy is clueless, and what did boyfriend Brian do on their video chat?
Carlos and Adela (er known to Carlos his friends as Mati from the tat on her arm) swing by to pick up Luis, Adela recognizes Jacob and tries to hide by looking away, but gets introduced anyway, she later tells Luis that he is the guy that stopped to help them when Noemi was poking a gun in their faces.
they stop by a block party where Adela sings a note longer than marachi band member and wins a sombrero, Luis couldn't do it and won a jolt from a portable electrocution machine. Luis asks Carlos about kissing Adela, Carlos says it was an accident, ya right?
Felicia is working her charms (if she had any) on Maria to bring brother Carlos into her home in exchange for getting Rudy to get off the "you gave our savings to your brother for a truck he doesn't have" record and get him to start paying the bills again, Maria looks through the paperwork but her daughter shows her some other stashed away stuff, are these receipts for transferring money? Rudy says it's a cousin in Mexico, Maria says you don't have a cousin in that town but he brushes it off, like the cousin Mati that you didn't know you had.
Rodrigo's man on the streets comes to see him, no luck on Adela, didn't know she was the #1's daughter.
Willy visits Felecia at the bar, he definitely has something on her, but Felecia manages to pass him off to her bouncer.
Carlos and son drop Adela off at the hotel where she is staying (not), Luis says she has no money, Carlos goes in to check it out, finds her in the storage room talks her into coming home with him, but first some conditions, no kissing, no romantic anything, just amigos, ya.
Carlos gives her his bedroom, ut oh, do we see some pillow sniffing as Adela drops off to sleep, feeling safe for once. Carlos is up and down all night, but is woken early by Luis (for probably the first time in his life) who is eager to get to work (you know, where Susy lives)
Felicia gets a call, from someone who sees her ready for bed, calls her a murderer, she doesn't seem to recognize the voice, but locks her bedroom door and pulls out a knife.
Maria drops by to see Carlos, who is accidentally waking up Adela, or covering her up, or trying not to touch her, or...
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:47:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:47:00 AM EDT
BAJO
Muchas gracias, Anonymous, for your delightful and helpful recap. I too wondered what Susy's boyfriend was doing on their video chat.
I loved the scene where Luis came to wake Carlos in the morning. Luis said and did many of the same things that Carlos had done when he woke the sleepy and reluctant Luis to get him to go to work.
One thing: You said "Rodrigo's man on the streets comes to see him, no luck on Adela, didn't know she was the #1's daughter." It's Noemi, not Adela, who was the #1's daughter.
Muchas gracias, Anonymous, for your delightful and helpful recap. I too wondered what Susy's boyfriend was doing on their video chat.
I loved the scene where Luis came to wake Carlos in the morning. Luis said and did many of the same things that Carlos had done when he woke the sleepy and reluctant Luis to get him to go to work.
One thing: You said "Rodrigo's man on the streets comes to see him, no luck on Adela, didn't know she was the #1's daughter." It's Noemi, not Adela, who was the #1's daughter.
BAJO
Just a quick post to let you know my problem with the link has been fixed.
I'm really enjoying the novela. No time to post as I'm about to start a webinar for my company's hideous new accounting software.
Just a quick post to let you know my problem with the link has been fixed.
I'm really enjoying the novela. No time to post as I'm about to start a webinar for my company's hideous new accounting software.
Bajo. I reiterate the thanks to Anonymous and also thank Juanita for your observations--that was hilarious about the early morning tables being turned between Carlos and Luis! The things that love can do! At first I thought that the street festival was just filler and "local color," but then I realized that that episode showed Carlos, Adela and Luis starting to act like a family, certainly bonding. It looks as if Felicia is about to be in real trouble about the death of her husband--whether she killed him, had him killed, or he died "accidentally," no matter how much he had it coming. Though as I've said before, she seems a bit too religious to be a murderer. Also, once again we see the more sympathetic side of Rodrigo, when we learn that he had the gang give money to a fellow inmate so that the inmate's child could have medical treatment. And he may genuinely be falling in love with Greicy--he's certainly being respectful. We'll see.
Bajo
I am really enjoying the novela so far. I do have lots of qualms about Rodrigo. I don't see how he could be redeemed, Greicy or no Greicy. He's ordering murders which he doubtless would do himself if he were not incarcerated.
Adela told someone (was it Luis? or was it Carlos?) that the Mati tattoo was her brother's name, so I'm not sure why they continue calling her Mati.
I thought the thug (the brother of Luis' girlfriend) who showed up at Felicia's "bar" (they keep calling it that, although it looks like a Mexican restaurant to me) outright accused her of killing her husband. I originally thought they were hinting she hired him to do the job and that was the chantaje. But now I think he somehow witnessed her doing it. Last night it seemed more like he wants to jump her bones rather than extort money.
Also, when she heard the voice calling her asesina, she threatened back, pulling a knife and saying something about having done it before.
I've been very suspicious of Maria's husband (name?) from the beginning. At first I thought he had a lover in the US. Now I think he has a wife in Mexico and maybe married Maria to get legal. They said something early on about Maria having gotten her green card, but I don't remember clearly how that happened.
I really enjoy every scene with Carlos and Adela. Maria Luisa is just great when she's joyful. I've seen her in other novelas when she had to look sad a lot, and this one is a pleasure.
I think the Greicy actress is boring. She's never impressed me in other roles I've seen her in.
I am really enjoying the novela so far. I do have lots of qualms about Rodrigo. I don't see how he could be redeemed, Greicy or no Greicy. He's ordering murders which he doubtless would do himself if he were not incarcerated.
Adela told someone (was it Luis? or was it Carlos?) that the Mati tattoo was her brother's name, so I'm not sure why they continue calling her Mati.
I thought the thug (the brother of Luis' girlfriend) who showed up at Felicia's "bar" (they keep calling it that, although it looks like a Mexican restaurant to me) outright accused her of killing her husband. I originally thought they were hinting she hired him to do the job and that was the chantaje. But now I think he somehow witnessed her doing it. Last night it seemed more like he wants to jump her bones rather than extort money.
Also, when she heard the voice calling her asesina, she threatened back, pulling a knife and saying something about having done it before.
I've been very suspicious of Maria's husband (name?) from the beginning. At first I thought he had a lover in the US. Now I think he has a wife in Mexico and maybe married Maria to get legal. They said something early on about Maria having gotten her green card, but I don't remember clearly how that happened.
I really enjoy every scene with Carlos and Adela. Maria Luisa is just great when she's joyful. I've seen her in other novelas when she had to look sad a lot, and this one is a pleasure.
I think the Greicy actress is boring. She's never impressed me in other roles I've seen her in.
Bajo
Whoops! Forgot to thank Anon for the recap. But something about the writing reminded me of Deb. Deb, was that you and you forgot to sign it?
Whoops! Forgot to thank Anon for the recap. But something about the writing reminded me of Deb. Deb, was that you and you forgot to sign it?
AVENIDA BRASIL
Oi, Oi, Oi!
Nina treating Carminha the way she treats her servants was amusing, up to a point. Max coming over seems to have out the kibosh on her plans, though. I'm not convinced a few photos of C and Max in flagrante delicto is enough to bring them down forever. Tifon is such a pushover, and Carminha so wily, that she could make excuses (It was just one time! I was lonely! You've been pushing me away! We were drunk! Whatever...) and act like it was a single error, not a lifelong bond/ plot between her and Max. It's only proof that they had sex, not that they've been pilfering money.
Is Lucio headed out of Divino on a one-way ticket? Hope so. That boy is no good. His poor mama...
Speaking of mamas, why does Lucinda always look so conflicted about Nina's plans re Carminha. It's like she doesn't want anything bad to happen to C, yet she doesn't flat-out stop Nina. Is she Carminha's mother? I don't understand her at all.
Does Nilo ever stop eating and drinking? Old guy should be like Jaba the Hutt by now.
~ Wee Rita
Oi, Oi, Oi!
Nina treating Carminha the way she treats her servants was amusing, up to a point. Max coming over seems to have out the kibosh on her plans, though. I'm not convinced a few photos of C and Max in flagrante delicto is enough to bring them down forever. Tifon is such a pushover, and Carminha so wily, that she could make excuses (It was just one time! I was lonely! You've been pushing me away! We were drunk! Whatever...) and act like it was a single error, not a lifelong bond/ plot between her and Max. It's only proof that they had sex, not that they've been pilfering money.
Is Lucio headed out of Divino on a one-way ticket? Hope so. That boy is no good. His poor mama...
Speaking of mamas, why does Lucinda always look so conflicted about Nina's plans re Carminha. It's like she doesn't want anything bad to happen to C, yet she doesn't flat-out stop Nina. Is she Carminha's mother? I don't understand her at all.
Does Nilo ever stop eating and drinking? Old guy should be like Jaba the Hutt by now.
~ Wee Rita
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:20:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:20:00 PM EDT
Bajo. I think Luis knows her real name is Adel; ahe heard Noemí call her that, but Carlos may not yet. María's husband Rodolfo was already a citizen, probably by birth, like his cousin Felicia, when María married him. She got her citizenship through him. However, he travels as a musician in both the US and Mexico, and may very well have acquired a 2nd family--in fact I think it's a fairly common bigamist mo--to have perfectly legitimate reasons to be away for long stretches of time. The Greicy actress certainly does mousy well, though. :)
Bajo,
yep, that was me that did the recap, the robo-quiz locked up on me and I forgot to add my name the second time around.
Juanita- what I meant to say was that Rodrigo's man-in-the-streets (Jay is his name in the cast list but I haven't heard it mentioned yet) was in charge of grabbing Adela, but he didn't, and she has disappeared, Rodrigo also wanted a pic or something to identify her, he didn't have that either but I think he mentioned the brand, and... he also didn't know Noemi was El Colmillo's daughter.
SpanProf- yeah that is true, they were acting like a family, plus I wasn't liking earlier where Luis seemed to be falling for her, I'm glad they cleared that up.
novelera- the actor playing Rodrigo had a similar role in "Camelia la Texana" that I liked so much better.... plus two of the guys he beat up died, didn't they, or what did happen to them, and Greicy seems a bit too much of a dork, the cast list above has little bits in it that haven't been revealed in the story very well, like she kind of took this job as a last resort.
Adele told the story of her brother Matias to Luis after they got away, but neither have told Carlos, and they both seem to be hiding the story of Noemi's death.
Maria's husband is Rudolfo, your questions on these guys are answered in the cast descriptions above but I don't think the story has made it very clear as yet.
the side stories seem way too predictable to me but I too am amazed by the Carlos/Adela scenes, (btw I think her name is María Elisa)
yep, that was me that did the recap, the robo-quiz locked up on me and I forgot to add my name the second time around.
Juanita- what I meant to say was that Rodrigo's man-in-the-streets (Jay is his name in the cast list but I haven't heard it mentioned yet) was in charge of grabbing Adela, but he didn't, and she has disappeared, Rodrigo also wanted a pic or something to identify her, he didn't have that either but I think he mentioned the brand, and... he also didn't know Noemi was El Colmillo's daughter.
SpanProf- yeah that is true, they were acting like a family, plus I wasn't liking earlier where Luis seemed to be falling for her, I'm glad they cleared that up.
novelera- the actor playing Rodrigo had a similar role in "Camelia la Texana" that I liked so much better.... plus two of the guys he beat up died, didn't they, or what did happen to them, and Greicy seems a bit too much of a dork, the cast list above has little bits in it that haven't been revealed in the story very well, like she kind of took this job as a last resort.
Adele told the story of her brother Matias to Luis after they got away, but neither have told Carlos, and they both seem to be hiding the story of Noemi's death.
Maria's husband is Rudolfo, your questions on these guys are answered in the cast descriptions above but I don't think the story has made it very clear as yet.
the side stories seem way too predictable to me but I too am amazed by the Carlos/Adela scenes, (btw I think her name is María Elisa)
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 3:11:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 3:11:00 PM EDT
BAJO
Thanks, SpanProf, you're right. They did say something about Maria having become legal through her husband. I forgot that.
Regarding the bigamy, I work in accounting for a construction company and have done so for many years. As is the case throughout construction, at least in California, the huge majority of the employees are Latinos. And, maybe because I like them and maybe because I speak Spanish to them, I hear the chisme a lot. There are several with wives and children in Mexico and a pareja here in the US.
Thanks, SpanProf, you're right. They did say something about Maria having become legal through her husband. I forgot that.
Regarding the bigamy, I work in accounting for a construction company and have done so for many years. As is the case throughout construction, at least in California, the huge majority of the employees are Latinos. And, maybe because I like them and maybe because I speak Spanish to them, I hear the chisme a lot. There are several with wives and children in Mexico and a pareja here in the US.
Bajo. Hi, Deb! Thanks for the additional information. I believe that so far one of the 3 guys Rodrigo beat up has died. Given that they were three would-be gang rapists it's kind of hard to feel sorry for him. I think it's typical of the kind of thing that the writer does to soften Rodrigo's character just a bit. And some of the hits he has ordered--like the one on Adela--haven't been successful, and those are the ones we hear about. Who knows, he may make some horrendous final sacrifice at the end--dying to save other characters, etc., to redeem himself.
Bajo. Novelera And it's amazing how long that kind of bigamy has been going on! I was doing research in Spain on a 16th-century author years ago, trying to find out about his family connections, etc., checking Inquisition records, court cases, baptismal records, etc. (The Spaniards never seem to throw anything away, and it's amazing how that dry Castilian climate preserves things.) I found an Inquisitional record of a man with the same last name as my guy who was a merchant who traveled regularly between Seville and Salamanca, in Northern Spain. He had a first wife and family in Seville, and a second wife in Salamanca. He was caught because someone from Seville whom he knew happened to run into him in Salamanca. His punishment was about what it would be nowadays--a big fine and a jail term. Also, his second wife's family sued and he had to pay them a big judgment, so that wife #2 could have a big enough dowry that her new husband wouldn't mind about her "disgrace".
Bajo,
don't forget that Rodrigo ordered the hit on Matias,
and Adela knows that.
don't forget that Rodrigo ordered the hit on Matias,
and Adela knows that.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 3:39:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 3:39:00 PM EDT
Bajo. Thanks, Deb! Yeah, he did--which of course is going to cause as many complications for Carlos and Adela as the hit he has out on Adela!
I'm a bit confused here. Isn't the big bad gang leader in the solitary cell aka, FANG, the one who ordered the HIT on Matias, and isn't he the father of Noemi?
If so, why?
Rodrigo, FEIER, is younger, and I doubt old enough to have a daughter Noemis' age....altho anything is possible.
Now, I believe that FANG ordered the hit on Adela because he thinks she killed
his daughter...but I don't know for sure.
Rodgrigo,FEIR, Carlos' son is called upon by FANG to kill Adela, the sister of Matias, and new love interest for Carlos,his father.
Just to double check, who actually killed Matias and why?
How exactly did Noemi die? I was watching but still not sure - overdose as reported?
Was Matias the boyfriend of Noemi, and was Noemi originally a good friend of Adela?
Whywas Noemi out to get Adela?
Thanks for clearing up these details. I am enjoying this novela very much; it is getting better each day, and I don't mind the cliche about the glasses. ..altho they used that gimmick in the films of the 1940's.
If so, why?
Rodrigo, FEIER, is younger, and I doubt old enough to have a daughter Noemis' age....altho anything is possible.
Now, I believe that FANG ordered the hit on Adela because he thinks she killed
his daughter...but I don't know for sure.
Rodgrigo,FEIR, Carlos' son is called upon by FANG to kill Adela, the sister of Matias, and new love interest for Carlos,his father.
Just to double check, who actually killed Matias and why?
How exactly did Noemi die? I was watching but still not sure - overdose as reported?
Was Matias the boyfriend of Noemi, and was Noemi originally a good friend of Adela?
Whywas Noemi out to get Adela?
Thanks for clearing up these details. I am enjoying this novela very much; it is getting better each day, and I don't mind the cliche about the glasses. ..altho they used that gimmick in the films of the 1940's.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 4:42:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 4:42:00 PM EDT
BAJO
I'll answer your questions,Elsa, in the next post, unless posting this one brings up someone having beat me to it!
I'll answer your questions,Elsa, in the next post, unless posting this one brings up someone having beat me to it!
AVENIDA BRASIL
Wee Rita--"Does Nilo ever stop eating and drinking?" No. That's his shtick. If it weren't for that, he'd have very little to do or say. Unimportant other than having secrets he shares with Mama L, being a nasty old man and being Max's father.
Ok, so if we must analyze this, Carminha could be Mama Lucinda's biobaby. But, we would be clear Nilo isn't her daddy or the Max thing won't work. So, she could be Mama L and Santiago's daughter, but I don't think she would keep referring to this terrible life she had growing up. Mama L. would not have sacrificed her daughter's future to go live in a tiradero. Mama L. has hinted about her terrible sin and why she had to leave a normal civilized life with Santiago to go live in the tiradero and take care of waifs. Still not sure where Carminha fits in, so we just have to wait.
Great payback watching Carminha mop the floor and get yelled at, but I also didn't get how willing Carminha was to get game with the turnabout servant-patrona gig. She's smart enough to figure out an excuse to Tifon, but how could she explain where the pics were taken or who took them. Maybe she's aware after Max coming and going that she might not be able to rely on his silence?
Where does Max come off saying he has nothing. He's put two payments of some rather hefty money on a fancy yacht. He can always sell it and use the money to start whatever business it was he wanted to start. My feeling is that he is incapable of being anything else other than a leech and he knows it.
Wee Rita--"Does Nilo ever stop eating and drinking?" No. That's his shtick. If it weren't for that, he'd have very little to do or say. Unimportant other than having secrets he shares with Mama L, being a nasty old man and being Max's father.
Ok, so if we must analyze this, Carminha could be Mama Lucinda's biobaby. But, we would be clear Nilo isn't her daddy or the Max thing won't work. So, she could be Mama L and Santiago's daughter, but I don't think she would keep referring to this terrible life she had growing up. Mama L. would not have sacrificed her daughter's future to go live in a tiradero. Mama L. has hinted about her terrible sin and why she had to leave a normal civilized life with Santiago to go live in the tiradero and take care of waifs. Still not sure where Carminha fits in, so we just have to wait.
Great payback watching Carminha mop the floor and get yelled at, but I also didn't get how willing Carminha was to get game with the turnabout servant-patrona gig. She's smart enough to figure out an excuse to Tifon, but how could she explain where the pics were taken or who took them. Maybe she's aware after Max coming and going that she might not be able to rely on his silence?
Where does Max come off saying he has nothing. He's put two payments of some rather hefty money on a fancy yacht. He can always sell it and use the money to start whatever business it was he wanted to start. My feeling is that he is incapable of being anything else other than a leech and he knows it.
AVENIDA BRASIL
I agree. Max has no real intention of working. He acted like an idiot who had won the lottery when he bought that stupid yacht. Worse, actually, because I think he blew the entire amount! He'll end up broke, what a dolt.
Yes, Carminha agreeing to be the servant was out of character. It's just some photos, I don't get it. Rita needs proof of financial wrongdoing too. C won't go to jail just for having sex with her brother-in-law.
I agree. Max has no real intention of working. He acted like an idiot who had won the lottery when he bought that stupid yacht. Worse, actually, because I think he blew the entire amount! He'll end up broke, what a dolt.
Yes, Carminha agreeing to be the servant was out of character. It's just some photos, I don't get it. Rita needs proof of financial wrongdoing too. C won't go to jail just for having sex with her brother-in-law.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 5:11:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 5:11:00 PM EDT
Bajo. Hi, Elsa. Rodrigo, el Faier, aka Rodrigo Martínez, Carlos's older son, is #2 in the La colonia gang. He takes his orders from the #1, El Colmillo, I believe, an older gang leader who is in solitary (sort of). El Colmillo was the father of Noemí, who had been a friend of Adela's, and she does appear to have died of a drug overdose, though after Adela had wrecked the car Noemí had forced her to drive, so that she and Luis could escape. Noemí had told Rodrigo that she would kill Adela. El Colmillo seems to give orders to Rodrigo, who passes them on to #3, the gang member who controls things on the street. Rodrigo ordered the hit on Matías (I'm not sure if ordered to by #1 or not) because Matías had agreed to a drug deal with the Scorpions, a rival gang. I'm not sure what the relationship was between Matías and Noemí.
Bajo. Noemí had taken the drugs for herself (Adela had given them to her thinking that she would give them back, I believe), but I think she told other gang members that Adela still had them. Hence the belief that Adela was a "traitor" to the gang and the hit on her.
BAJO
Yes, the Boss of Bosses is El Colmillo or Fang. I don’t think he ordered the hit on Matias and Adela. Noemi saw Matias preparing for a drug deal with the other gang Los Alacranes. Matias, stupidly, was trying to raise some money to get his sister out of the bad neighborhood. Adela was aghast when she found out what he’d done. Again, stupidly, Matias didn’t think Noemi would tell since she was a friend of Adela. But she did. I think the guys who are NOT in prison decided on their own to kill Matias as a traitor to the gang La Colonia. They grabbed up both Matias and Adela and, I think, they were just going to brand Adela – although one of them at least wanted to rape her. They probably always meant to kill Matias, and they shot him when he moved to help his beloved sister.
But I think El Faier was angry because Adela got away and he wanted her caught. Not sure if it was an outright hit or not. But, after Noemi overdosed, El Colmillo blamed Adela for leaving her there to die. This is not exactly what happened as I think she was quite dead before they left. So he asked Rodrigo to arrange it to get back in his good graces. Was he out of his graces for beating up the other La Colonia guys? Not sure.
Again, who actually killed Matias was one of the guys in his own gang, for the traitorous deal with Los Alacranes. I don’t remember exactly which guy pulled the trigger.
I don’t think Matias and Noemi were an item. They never mentioned him having a girlfriend. Maybe Noemi and Adela had been better friends when they were younger, perhaps as children. But Adela was trying to get out of that life. She had a job as an auto mechanic and was urging Matias to also somehow break off with them.
Noemi definitely died from a cocaine overdose. She was high when she arrived at the meeting site with Adela. And, after she forced Adela and Luis into the car, she continued to snort it.
Noemi was a very spiteful and nasty person. I got the impression she’d been jealous of Adela, even though she was supposed to be her friend. Adela gave her the brick of cocaine to give to La Colonia so they’d forgive what Matias had done. But Noemi kept it and said that Adela had taken it.
Feel free, anyone else, to chime in with corrections in my understanding of the events.
Yes, the Boss of Bosses is El Colmillo or Fang. I don’t think he ordered the hit on Matias and Adela. Noemi saw Matias preparing for a drug deal with the other gang Los Alacranes. Matias, stupidly, was trying to raise some money to get his sister out of the bad neighborhood. Adela was aghast when she found out what he’d done. Again, stupidly, Matias didn’t think Noemi would tell since she was a friend of Adela. But she did. I think the guys who are NOT in prison decided on their own to kill Matias as a traitor to the gang La Colonia. They grabbed up both Matias and Adela and, I think, they were just going to brand Adela – although one of them at least wanted to rape her. They probably always meant to kill Matias, and they shot him when he moved to help his beloved sister.
But I think El Faier was angry because Adela got away and he wanted her caught. Not sure if it was an outright hit or not. But, after Noemi overdosed, El Colmillo blamed Adela for leaving her there to die. This is not exactly what happened as I think she was quite dead before they left. So he asked Rodrigo to arrange it to get back in his good graces. Was he out of his graces for beating up the other La Colonia guys? Not sure.
Again, who actually killed Matias was one of the guys in his own gang, for the traitorous deal with Los Alacranes. I don’t remember exactly which guy pulled the trigger.
I don’t think Matias and Noemi were an item. They never mentioned him having a girlfriend. Maybe Noemi and Adela had been better friends when they were younger, perhaps as children. But Adela was trying to get out of that life. She had a job as an auto mechanic and was urging Matias to also somehow break off with them.
Noemi definitely died from a cocaine overdose. She was high when she arrived at the meeting site with Adela. And, after she forced Adela and Luis into the car, she continued to snort it.
Noemi was a very spiteful and nasty person. I got the impression she’d been jealous of Adela, even though she was supposed to be her friend. Adela gave her the brick of cocaine to give to La Colonia so they’d forgive what Matias had done. But Noemi kept it and said that Adela had taken it.
Feel free, anyone else, to chime in with corrections in my understanding of the events.
Bajo. Thanks, Novelera for the more complete explanation that clears up some things for me too. One of the many things that have shown that Adela is a good person (along with the dog Flag liking her) is that she tried to give cpr to Noemí and only left with Luis after she was sure that Noemí was dead and that there was nothing more she could do for her.
Thanks to ALL who answered my questions. I've got enough to continue on now.
I don't have time to comment much, but I appreciate everything you do to
help us understand better. I will return if I need help, but please know that
I am watching and thinking of you with all good thoughts even if I do not
come back on for awhile. ELSA
I don't have time to comment much, but I appreciate everything you do to
help us understand better. I will return if I need help, but please know that
I am watching and thinking of you with all good thoughts even if I do not
come back on for awhile. ELSA
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:18:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:18:00 PM EDT
AVENIDA BRASIL
Just a side note. I keep spelling Carminha's name the way I saw it originally. When I watched a couple of interviews with the cast, they pronounced her name Carminya, not the way we hear it in the dubbed-in Spanish. I do go with Tifon, although they say it Tufao and Jorgito even has a tattoo with Tufao on his arm.
Just a side note. I keep spelling Carminha's name the way I saw it originally. When I watched a couple of interviews with the cast, they pronounced her name Carminya, not the way we hear it in the dubbed-in Spanish. I do go with Tifon, although they say it Tufao and Jorgito even has a tattoo with Tufao on his arm.
BAJO Not a detailed recap, just a few things to spur comments.
Sweet scene in Carlos’ bedroom where he tells Adela how wonderful it is to trust someone. She says her life has been tough and she isn’t used to telling people how she feels. He gives her a house key.
Maria barges in and rattles on about the woman staying there that she knows isn’t their cousin. Adela comes out and confesses that she stole the truck!
At the prison Rodrigo pours it on thick with Greicy about she made him want to change for her (gag). He’s playing her like a violin. Back in the clinic she finds a book of Pablo Neruda’s love poetry as a gift. This is some lenient prison. He walks around anywhere he pleases and so do the other prisoners.
There’s a scene with Carlos and Adela where he says she’s like a bougainvillea, beautiful flowers, but when you try to get close there’s púas (sharp prickly things).
When Adela is out and about a couple of La Colonia guys stop her, but they’re looking for her old hair style. She tells them her name is Mati and shows them her tattoo with that name. Whew.
Felicia’s violent scene with Willy reminds me of the Nicole Kidman movie “To Die For” where she gets a couple of adolescents to kill her husband. Seems like Felicia did the same, but with just one boy. Now he’s obsessed with her. She says she’s been paying him for years; but, like most villains in telenovelas, he wants sex. He ends up beating her so she ends up in the hospital. So Willy was the one who killed her ex, after all.
At the jail Rodrigo and the dumb looking convict begin to hollow out books from the library. I suppose this is how Greicy is going to be smuggling in their drugs, at least I think drugs is what they’re bringing in.
Later in the hospital we meet Felicia’s brother Cristóbal, a handsome police officer who wants to get the one who beat her.
What? Willy is talking with his sister, Luis’ soon-to-be-ex-girlfriend, and Willy blames Carlos for everything.
Rodolfo gets a friend at a bar to call and say he’s the uncle he’s been sending money to. Snake!
At the rich folks house the evil blonde tells Carlos to never sit at the kitchen chair again. She then fires the maid for asking for the weekend off to visit her sick brother in San Diego.
Greicy goes back to the jail, tell the guard she left her wallet with $100 in the clinic and proceeds to get it on with Rodrigo.
Adela is a terrible cook. She makes, I think, an omelet for dinner and puts a LOT of red chiles in it. She, Carlos, and Luis laugh about this, and Carlos makes quesadillas. [I’m SO glad they’re going with Luis liking Adela. I hate these sulky kid plots that take 50 episodes for the kid to warm up to his or her father’s new love interest.]
Felicia is home from the hospital. Maria tells her she’s going to help her land Carlos. She goes on to tell her that “Mati” is not a family member and that she was the one who stole Carlos’ truck. Against Maria's advice, Feli shows up and encounters Adela taking out the garbage!
Jay brings a bottle of tequila to Laura and tells her he’s not there to harm her. [He’s way too cute to be interested in Laura, I think. Maybe he wants to get her drunk and find out where Adela is.]
Sweet scene in Carlos’ bedroom where he tells Adela how wonderful it is to trust someone. She says her life has been tough and she isn’t used to telling people how she feels. He gives her a house key.
Maria barges in and rattles on about the woman staying there that she knows isn’t their cousin. Adela comes out and confesses that she stole the truck!
At the prison Rodrigo pours it on thick with Greicy about she made him want to change for her (gag). He’s playing her like a violin. Back in the clinic she finds a book of Pablo Neruda’s love poetry as a gift. This is some lenient prison. He walks around anywhere he pleases and so do the other prisoners.
There’s a scene with Carlos and Adela where he says she’s like a bougainvillea, beautiful flowers, but when you try to get close there’s púas (sharp prickly things).
When Adela is out and about a couple of La Colonia guys stop her, but they’re looking for her old hair style. She tells them her name is Mati and shows them her tattoo with that name. Whew.
Felicia’s violent scene with Willy reminds me of the Nicole Kidman movie “To Die For” where she gets a couple of adolescents to kill her husband. Seems like Felicia did the same, but with just one boy. Now he’s obsessed with her. She says she’s been paying him for years; but, like most villains in telenovelas, he wants sex. He ends up beating her so she ends up in the hospital. So Willy was the one who killed her ex, after all.
At the jail Rodrigo and the dumb looking convict begin to hollow out books from the library. I suppose this is how Greicy is going to be smuggling in their drugs, at least I think drugs is what they’re bringing in.
Later in the hospital we meet Felicia’s brother Cristóbal, a handsome police officer who wants to get the one who beat her.
What? Willy is talking with his sister, Luis’ soon-to-be-ex-girlfriend, and Willy blames Carlos for everything.
Rodolfo gets a friend at a bar to call and say he’s the uncle he’s been sending money to. Snake!
At the rich folks house the evil blonde tells Carlos to never sit at the kitchen chair again. She then fires the maid for asking for the weekend off to visit her sick brother in San Diego.
Greicy goes back to the jail, tell the guard she left her wallet with $100 in the clinic and proceeds to get it on with Rodrigo.
Adela is a terrible cook. She makes, I think, an omelet for dinner and puts a LOT of red chiles in it. She, Carlos, and Luis laugh about this, and Carlos makes quesadillas. [I’m SO glad they’re going with Luis liking Adela. I hate these sulky kid plots that take 50 episodes for the kid to warm up to his or her father’s new love interest.]
Felicia is home from the hospital. Maria tells her she’s going to help her land Carlos. She goes on to tell her that “Mati” is not a family member and that she was the one who stole Carlos’ truck. Against Maria's advice, Feli shows up and encounters Adela taking out the garbage!
Jay brings a bottle of tequila to Laura and tells her he’s not there to harm her. [He’s way too cute to be interested in Laura, I think. Maybe he wants to get her drunk and find out where Adela is.]
Bajo
great recap novelera!
I just wasn't getting a lot of the conversations tonight and this helps a lot.
the beat up Felcia facing down Adela at the garbage can,
looked like a pretty good chola herself.
Cristóbal Méndez (José Guillermo Cortines), Felicia's cop brother, was the fighter Máximo Durán in "Marido en alquiler".
great recap novelera!
I just wasn't getting a lot of the conversations tonight and this helps a lot.
the beat up Felcia facing down Adela at the garbage can,
looked like a pretty good chola herself.
Cristóbal Méndez (José Guillermo Cortines), Felicia's cop brother, was the fighter Máximo Durán in "Marido en alquiler".
Permalink posted by : Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:46:00 AM EDT
: Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:46:00 AM EDT
BAJO
Deb, thanks very much for pointing out that José Guillermo Cortines played the boxer in Marido. I wonder whether that means we're likely to get a number of scenes with him taking off his clothes (or at least his shirt). ¡Ojalá!
Deb, thanks very much for pointing out that José Guillermo Cortines played the boxer in Marido. I wonder whether that means we're likely to get a number of scenes with him taking off his clothes (or at least his shirt). ¡Ojalá!
Bajo. Thanks for the great recap, novelera! Adorable opening scene (a repeat from the end of the last episode, I think), between Carlos and Adela! What a way to stroke a guy's ego, to tell him you don't deserve him, a phrase that sounds stronger in Spanish than in English. If we had any illusions that Rodrigo was sincere about Greicy, he makes it clear to another convict that he's just using her to help smuggle things in and out of prison. The cooking incident with Carlos, Luis, and Adela was extremely cute, and more evidence that they are turning into a family. Willy's killing Felicia's husband sounds more like one of those "Will no one rid me of this priest?" Henry II/Thomas a Kempis (I think) plot twist, but Willy, who had a crush, took Felicia seriously and killed the husband and has been blackmailing her ever since. Wow! What a transformation in Felicia! She is really off the rails--and so quickly as to almost be unbelievable.
Bajo
I only came back to the blog when this novela began. So maybe this article was already mentioned, but here it is anyway. Just in case.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/telemundo-bajo-el-mismo-cielo-immigrant_55b7b92ce4b0074ba5a65c34
I only came back to the blog when this novela began. So maybe this article was already mentioned, but here it is anyway. Just in case.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/telemundo-bajo-el-mismo-cielo-immigrant_55b7b92ce4b0074ba5a65c34
Bajo
Tks for the great recap. I missed it for the very same reasons as Juanita. By accident, I ran across it at 1:00PM today so was able to catch up.
I missed El senor also, but that is just more killing and perverse sex.
Tks for the great recap. I missed it for the very same reasons as Juanita. By accident, I ran across it at 1:00PM today so was able to catch up.
I missed El senor also, but that is just more killing and perverse sex.
Pardon the intrusion. We have been given instructions from BlogMom regarding political discussion--please see the main page for more details. Juanita, the original text of your post appears below, with the political portion redacted. Thank you for you understanding and please, carry on--it sounds like y'all are having a great time with Bajo!
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BAJO
Between fitfully watching bits of [redacted] and then watching with much more interest Jon Stewart's last show, I haven't yet seen last night's episode of Bajo. But I'm very grateful to novelera for the recap.
It seems as if parts of the novela are going from bad to worse: the relationship between Rodrigo and Greicy, unlikely though a bit charming at the start, sounds as if it's becoming too soppy too quickly; and the portrayal of the evil blonde married to Jacob is becoming so heavy-handed that I may start fast-forwarding. Yes, I know that Telemundo wishes to condemn her values and praise those of her husband, but still, I hate it when novelas become Public Service Announcements.
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BAJO
Between fitfully watching bits of [redacted] and then watching with much more interest Jon Stewart's last show, I haven't yet seen last night's episode of Bajo. But I'm very grateful to novelera for the recap.
It seems as if parts of the novela are going from bad to worse: the relationship between Rodrigo and Greicy, unlikely though a bit charming at the start, sounds as if it's becoming too soppy too quickly; and the portrayal of the evil blonde married to Jacob is becoming so heavy-handed that I may start fast-forwarding. Yes, I know that Telemundo wishes to condemn her values and praise those of her husband, but still, I hate it when novelas become Public Service Announcements.
Bajo. Here in the midwest Bajo is shown at 8PM and then again at 11PM, so I was able to watch the first half of the debates and Rookie Blue (with side trips to the 2nd half of the debates during the commercials) and then was able to watch the news before watching the latest Bajo episode. I am assuming that Comedy Central will rerun The Jon Stewart farewell at some point. One of the really nice things about Telemundo tns is that they're re-run on the same night and then easily available online--as I've said before. Of course the end result was that I ended up watching a lot more television than I usually do. Really. :)
Bajo
so what should we think about a girl that swings by the local prison at night to have sex,
of course he has nice things to say to her.
didn't two guys recently escape with the help of a married woman doing that.
so what should we think about a girl that swings by the local prison at night to have sex,
of course he has nice things to say to her.
didn't two guys recently escape with the help of a married woman doing that.
Permalink posted by : Friday, August 7, 2015 at 3:36:00 PM EDT
: Friday, August 7, 2015 at 3:36:00 PM EDT
Bajo. Btw, did you all notice how bleak, lonely and solitary Greicy's life is outside of work? She even has a teeny-tiny pathetic little tv--in fact at first I thought it was an old-fashioned portable radio. She is obviously primed to be a victim to someone like Rodrigo.
Bajo. And I'm assuming that that dark little apartment with a single lamp not giving off much light was symbolic, and not just saving on electricity.
BAJO
Yes, SpanProf, good point about Greicy's dismal life. That little boom-box television was over the top. She's the stereotypical mousy girl who's probably going to stop wearing glasses after she has sex with Rodrigo! I'm not liking either character and wish the prison part of the novela wasn't even in it.
So the same woman wrote "Marido en Alquiler", eh? I liked that one as well. Sonya Smith was really good in it, and Juan Soler played such a sweet guy. It was hard to believe his change when he was a villain in "Reina de Corazones".
Juanita, the article I posted from Huffington Post kind of elaborates on the "message" we're meant to get: that most immigrants are good, hardworking people like Carlos. Also, Deborah Sanders, the chilly blonde, appears to me to be a self-hating Mexican. I think they alluded to Jacob having been born in the US, and loving Latino culture. The actor certainly speaks unaccented English the times I've heard him speak it, and his surname is Sanders. They said Deborah was born in Mexico. They also alluded to some kind of a dark secret, because Jacob wanted to know why they didn't visit her parents. I'm not even sure he's ever met them.
Juanita, I hope you don't go away because your light-hearted political aside was redacted. Please stay with us!
Yes, SpanProf, good point about Greicy's dismal life. That little boom-box television was over the top. She's the stereotypical mousy girl who's probably going to stop wearing glasses after she has sex with Rodrigo! I'm not liking either character and wish the prison part of the novela wasn't even in it.
So the same woman wrote "Marido en Alquiler", eh? I liked that one as well. Sonya Smith was really good in it, and Juan Soler played such a sweet guy. It was hard to believe his change when he was a villain in "Reina de Corazones".
Juanita, the article I posted from Huffington Post kind of elaborates on the "message" we're meant to get: that most immigrants are good, hardworking people like Carlos. Also, Deborah Sanders, the chilly blonde, appears to me to be a self-hating Mexican. I think they alluded to Jacob having been born in the US, and loving Latino culture. The actor certainly speaks unaccented English the times I've heard him speak it, and his surname is Sanders. They said Deborah was born in Mexico. They also alluded to some kind of a dark secret, because Jacob wanted to know why they didn't visit her parents. I'm not even sure he's ever met them.
Juanita, I hope you don't go away because your light-hearted political aside was redacted. Please stay with us!
Bajo. Deborah also tells one of her equally snobby comadres that one of the main reason she hires the undocumented is because they work longer hours for less pay. What a creepy person!
Bajo. My goodness! Whoever is moderating removed a potentially mildly political observation (not really) and a lot of stuff that wasn't even marginally political and was directly related to the plot of an episode that has already shown. Hmmmm. The extent to which Rodrigo is willing to manipulate Greicy is political? Adela fighting off Felicia--very successfully and entertainingly--is political? I think not.
BAJO
Thanks, La Diva del Desierto, for reposting my message with the small bit of "politics" removed. Actually, I think the "no politics" rule is probably a sensible one. Political disagreements can easily create a hostile atmosphere, and that's something CarayCaray has fortunately managed to avoid. May it continue to do so.
Thanks, La Diva del Desierto, for reposting my message with the small bit of "politics" removed. Actually, I think the "no politics" rule is probably a sensible one. Political disagreements can easily create a hostile atmosphere, and that's something CarayCaray has fortunately managed to avoid. May it continue to do so.
Bajo. Who would have expected that Felicia's house has hidden cameras? Now the shoe is on the other foot between her and Willy. If he doesn't get rid of Adela--scaring her off, not killing her--she'll turn the videos over to the police. But isn't Willy a member of La colonia? If he is, won't he get points for killing Adela? She is now in danger from a number of fronts, and not only that,is going to work as a maid for the disgusting Deborah Sanders. The plot just keeps getting thicker and thicker. And speaking of the producers'/author's "editorial" views, Adela comments on the many homeless in LA, and the extremes of wealth and poverty there. Yucky scene of the torture of Laura--and now both Adela and she are marked for death by Rodrigo. To make things even thicker, Adela has offered to help Carlos find Rodrigo, and it looks as if they'll have success in the next episode!
TELEMUNDO...
(the Dragon returns, 2X)
¿Quién es quién?
rumor is Eugenio Siller will play the twin brothers in this comedy,
galan to Danna Paola.
http://masquetelenovelas.blogspot.com.es/2015/08/eugenio-siller-el-galan-de-danna-paola.html#more
(the Dragon returns, 2X)
¿Quién es quién?
rumor is Eugenio Siller will play the twin brothers in this comedy,
galan to Danna Paola.
http://masquetelenovelas.blogspot.com.es/2015/08/eugenio-siller-el-galan-de-danna-paola.html#more
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 2:25:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 2:25:00 AM EDT
Bajo,
thanks SpanProf,
love your comments!
my post disappeared today, but now it's back, I think that is related to their spam attacks, and I haven't registered with google.
I don't think Willy is a Colonia, maybe just an independent criminal, did he say he didn't kill Felicia's husband for the money, he did it to stop her suffering, and didn't Felicia say I'd rather be dead than be with you.
wow, Felicia sure is taking a walk on the dark side, is Carlos that special, she should go after Jacob, she would be a step up for him.
Rodrigo's man-in-the-streets is Yei, (according to the captions), did he put Laura's hand on that hotplate, ouch! so I guess it wasn't a date, did Rodrigo tell him to follow her like a shadow, and when she leads him to Adela, kill them both.
was Greicy a virgin, and the novela has given them their own song, oh well, but she saw his merc in the books, ah but Colmillo is making him do it, or he dies, it's tough in prison, "can I help" Greicy asks, (just don't poke his eye out with those glasses).
Adela and Deborah, is this gonna be like Nina and Carminha in "Avenida Brazil"?
Luis' best buddy Nick, reminds me of "Leave it to Beaver".
thanks SpanProf,
love your comments!
my post disappeared today, but now it's back, I think that is related to their spam attacks, and I haven't registered with google.
I don't think Willy is a Colonia, maybe just an independent criminal, did he say he didn't kill Felicia's husband for the money, he did it to stop her suffering, and didn't Felicia say I'd rather be dead than be with you.
wow, Felicia sure is taking a walk on the dark side, is Carlos that special, she should go after Jacob, she would be a step up for him.
Rodrigo's man-in-the-streets is Yei, (according to the captions), did he put Laura's hand on that hotplate, ouch! so I guess it wasn't a date, did Rodrigo tell him to follow her like a shadow, and when she leads him to Adela, kill them both.
was Greicy a virgin, and the novela has given them their own song, oh well, but she saw his merc in the books, ah but Colmillo is making him do it, or he dies, it's tough in prison, "can I help" Greicy asks, (just don't poke his eye out with those glasses).
Adela and Deborah, is this gonna be like Nina and Carminha in "Avenida Brazil"?
Luis' best buddy Nick, reminds me of "Leave it to Beaver".
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 2:36:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 2:36:00 AM EDT
Bajo. Thanks, Deb! Yes, Greicy was a virgin, and as she explained to Rodrigo, just didn't have much contact with other people in general. She's a citizen by birth, but her mother is back in Mexico and sent Greicy to the US to study nursing. Rodrigo tells her that he's not smuggling drugs, just little "luxury items" that the inmates can't get elsewhere. Suuuuuuuure! She even volunteers to help, which shows how smitten she is. Right on about that woman, in upstate NY, I believe, who helped the convicts escape. I have a nephew who was a corrections officer (i.e. jailor) for a while while he was going to college part time. He said that one of the main things they emphasized in his training was that a lot of inmates are good at conning people and not to let himself get conned. Even with all the training, evidently one of the female corrections officers got too personally close to one of the inmates and was fired. My guesses for Deborah's background: 1. She's El Colmillo's sister. 2. Her parents are drug kingpins. 3. Her family were very poor undocumented immigrants who did farm labor, worked as a maid, etc., and Deborah was able to get an education through scholarships, etc. I think that yes, she has met her match in Adela.
Bajo. And yes, Rodrigo tells Yei to follow Laura till she leads him to Adela and then kill them both.
Bajo. And btw, Carlos has gotten his truck back and according to the preview for the next episode will find his son Rodrigo next week. That means two major plot lines will be more or less wrapped up. Will they go off in another direction, or is this going to be a fairly short telenovela, i.e., many fewer than the 120 or so episodes usual for a tn? How many episodes can the hit order on Adela or Felicia's craziness take up?
BAJO
Deb asked "Adela and Deborah, is this gonna be like Nina and Carminha in "Avenida Brazil"?"
Arrgh, I sure hope not! I bailed out of Avenida Brasil because after a while, it was the same story over and over again.
One thing I didn't understand about last night's episode of Bajo was Adela's offer to help Carlos find Rodrigo. That would presumably involve her contacting people in or allied with La Colonia, wouldn't it? Since she knows they want to kill her, and since she even changed her appearance so that they would have a harder time finding her, why would she want to go anywhere near anyone involved with La Colonia?
Deb asked "Adela and Deborah, is this gonna be like Nina and Carminha in "Avenida Brazil"?"
Arrgh, I sure hope not! I bailed out of Avenida Brasil because after a while, it was the same story over and over again.
One thing I didn't understand about last night's episode of Bajo was Adela's offer to help Carlos find Rodrigo. That would presumably involve her contacting people in or allied with La Colonia, wouldn't it? Since she knows they want to kill her, and since she even changed her appearance so that they would have a harder time finding her, why would she want to go anywhere near anyone involved with La Colonia?
Bajo. She may not realize yet that Rodrigo Martinez, son of Carlos, is El Faier,the one who has a hit out on her. After all, she, or one of the other characters, said that La Colonia is such a large national and international gang that no one could know all its members. And once Carlos and Rodrigo reunite, it may be that Carlos can get him to spare Adela. Obviously something has to happen so that Adela and Carlos both are ok and able to become a permanent couple.
Bajo
Thanks for all the great comments, you all. I thought the guy who threatened Laura was Jay, and they pronounced the first letter as jota rather than as one would in English.
I hadn't thought about Adela's saying she'd help Carlos find Rod. But I think it was just kind of vague, like keeping an eye out on the street, rather than approaching members of La Colonia to find him.
Boy, Felicia made a huge leap to 100% villain last night. Lots of things about this novela surprise me. By that I mean the quick pace. I fully expected Adela to not tell Carlos what Felicia did and for her crazy behavior to remain unnoticed by him. Maria Elisa did a wonderful job portraying her confusion. Her first impulse was to run, but Carlos got the truth out of her and confronted Felicia.
Another terrific scene was when Luis told her she was not the woman for his father, apparently meaning she'd go away and leave him like his wife and his son. Both actors were terrific there. Luis wasn't being a bratty child. From his point of view he's protecting his father. Adela definitely se tomó al pecho (took what he said to heart) and her eyes welled up with tears.
SpanProf, I'm flexible on this. But in the past when we had many more commenters the rule was not to discuss the previews of the next episode. Some people on the blog firmly turned channels as soon as the episode was over to avoid knowing what was coming. I actually did see the preview, another thing that surprised me about how fast the novela is moving. But I often switch channels or turn off the TV because I like the suspense.
Off topic, in my construction company we have a project called the Murray Residence, a big fancy house in Carmel. I've (gently) tried to get the Project Manager for the job and my Payroll Admin (both born in Mexico) to say that correctly. They just can't seem to say it. What they say is mur-eye!
Thanks for all the great comments, you all. I thought the guy who threatened Laura was Jay, and they pronounced the first letter as jota rather than as one would in English.
I hadn't thought about Adela's saying she'd help Carlos find Rod. But I think it was just kind of vague, like keeping an eye out on the street, rather than approaching members of La Colonia to find him.
Boy, Felicia made a huge leap to 100% villain last night. Lots of things about this novela surprise me. By that I mean the quick pace. I fully expected Adela to not tell Carlos what Felicia did and for her crazy behavior to remain unnoticed by him. Maria Elisa did a wonderful job portraying her confusion. Her first impulse was to run, but Carlos got the truth out of her and confronted Felicia.
Another terrific scene was when Luis told her she was not the woman for his father, apparently meaning she'd go away and leave him like his wife and his son. Both actors were terrific there. Luis wasn't being a bratty child. From his point of view he's protecting his father. Adela definitely se tomó al pecho (took what he said to heart) and her eyes welled up with tears.
SpanProf, I'm flexible on this. But in the past when we had many more commenters the rule was not to discuss the previews of the next episode. Some people on the blog firmly turned channels as soon as the episode was over to avoid knowing what was coming. I actually did see the preview, another thing that surprised me about how fast the novela is moving. But I often switch channels or turn off the TV because I like the suspense.
Off topic, in my construction company we have a project called the Murray Residence, a big fancy house in Carmel. I've (gently) tried to get the Project Manager for the job and my Payroll Admin (both born in Mexico) to say that correctly. They just can't seem to say it. What they say is mur-eye!
Bajo. Though lots of times those previews turn out to lead you in the wrong direction or mislead you about what's going to happen, which for me is yet another telenovela pleasure! I'll admit that Bajo doesn't seem to do that as much as Tierra de Reyes did.:)
I very much agree that we shouldn't discuss whole episodes that haven't yet been shown, but I've never been really comfortable with the "no discussion of previews" rule. As SpanProf noted, many times the previews are deliberately misleading, and that's part of the fun. And even when they're not misleading, Telemundo is presenting them, they're part of the evening's telecast. Moreover, several years ago when I was watching Univision novelas, I think I recall lots of times when the previews were discussed. If that's still the case, it seems a bit strange to have a different policy for Telemundo novelas.
Bajo
for me, I don't watch the previews, it goes back to a couple of novelas where they were actually giving away all of the plot points, so when I read a comment that is talking about the previews, I stop reading, and of course can't comment.
for me, I don't watch the previews, it goes back to a couple of novelas where they were actually giving away all of the plot points, so when I read a comment that is talking about the previews, I stop reading, and of course can't comment.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 10:54:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 10:54:00 PM EDT
General – no comments on previews, please!
Jean and I have asked our Telemundo folks to avoid talking about previews here because we know it bothers some of our readers. This is especially true when the previews give away what would be the big surprise in the next episode (though of course, previews are sometimes just fake-outs).
Since our long-standing "no previews" policy isn't a hardship on anyone, it's nice to be able to extend this small courtesy to the people who are bothered by reading the often spoilerish "avances."
[As some of you know, I also have an oar in the water over on the Univision part of the blog and when I recap over there, I almost always include the previews. It's just a tiny difference of preference, a culture difference, if you will.]
Jean and I have asked our Telemundo folks to avoid talking about previews here because we know it bothers some of our readers. This is especially true when the previews give away what would be the big surprise in the next episode (though of course, previews are sometimes just fake-outs).
Since our long-standing "no previews" policy isn't a hardship on anyone, it's nice to be able to extend this small courtesy to the people who are bothered by reading the often spoilerish "avances."
[As some of you know, I also have an oar in the water over on the Univision part of the blog and when I recap over there, I almost always include the previews. It's just a tiny difference of preference, a culture difference, if you will.]
BAJO
I've been watching this and I kind of like it - it's different from most novelas and since I stay away from all the narco stories, this one has an extra edge for me.
I'll try to stick with it, but I really don't know if I'll be able to...
I enjoyed all your comments and I'm glad to see the story is attracting so much interest. A big thank you to all the bloggers who provided recaps in these first two weeks, this is extra hard when a show is just starting.
What I think so far:
- I didn't dislike Rodrigo and Gracie until it was made perfectly clear that he was using her and she was more than willing to be used by him. I get that she's lonely, but OMG, she's actually becoming his accomplice. This can't end well for her, even IF Rodrigo actually falls for her. At first I thought she would be his salvation, now I think he will be the one to actually ruin her
- Felicia is one crazy peach, but Carlos is really leading her on, too. He knows that she wants a family, he knows her history (even if he is not aware of the nasty stuff), yet he keeps dating/ sleeping with her. He says that she knows they're not serious, but that doesn't fly with me, since they've been together for years and she wants a family. She's not getting any younger, he has no intention to commit to her, so why not put an end to it? Yeah, I know why, he's lonely, but this makes me think less of him.
- And talking about love, Carlos has become smitten with Adela after one kiss??? That's a big turn off for me, especially since she's closer in age to his son than to him and he has a well respected, age appropriate woman who is dieing to be with him. I'm not saying that Felicia is better than Adela, but going by the things that he knows about both these women, why would he ever pick Adela over Felicia? Hormones maybe? How can he be in love after a couple of days AND in the type of world he lives in? I would have much preferred for his infatuation to be a slow burn, the way he's acting is totally unrealistic to me.
- By the time Adela accepts him, I think Rodrigo, her greatest enemy, will be revealed as the long lost son and let's see how Carlos deals with this. Rodrigo seems dedicated to his gang, but will he cause harm to a person that his father loves?
- I'm liking Luis more every day; I wasn't sure about him at first, because I kept remembering the last part I saw him in, in Mentir para Vivir, but the kid is smart and interesting - let's see what he does to win over the rich girl.
I think that's about it for now. I'll try to be back as soon as possible, hopefully I can watch the episodes as they are aired, so I can be a part of the discussion more.
I've been watching this and I kind of like it - it's different from most novelas and since I stay away from all the narco stories, this one has an extra edge for me.
I'll try to stick with it, but I really don't know if I'll be able to...
I enjoyed all your comments and I'm glad to see the story is attracting so much interest. A big thank you to all the bloggers who provided recaps in these first two weeks, this is extra hard when a show is just starting.
What I think so far:
- I didn't dislike Rodrigo and Gracie until it was made perfectly clear that he was using her and she was more than willing to be used by him. I get that she's lonely, but OMG, she's actually becoming his accomplice. This can't end well for her, even IF Rodrigo actually falls for her. At first I thought she would be his salvation, now I think he will be the one to actually ruin her
- Felicia is one crazy peach, but Carlos is really leading her on, too. He knows that she wants a family, he knows her history (even if he is not aware of the nasty stuff), yet he keeps dating/ sleeping with her. He says that she knows they're not serious, but that doesn't fly with me, since they've been together for years and she wants a family. She's not getting any younger, he has no intention to commit to her, so why not put an end to it? Yeah, I know why, he's lonely, but this makes me think less of him.
- And talking about love, Carlos has become smitten with Adela after one kiss??? That's a big turn off for me, especially since she's closer in age to his son than to him and he has a well respected, age appropriate woman who is dieing to be with him. I'm not saying that Felicia is better than Adela, but going by the things that he knows about both these women, why would he ever pick Adela over Felicia? Hormones maybe? How can he be in love after a couple of days AND in the type of world he lives in? I would have much preferred for his infatuation to be a slow burn, the way he's acting is totally unrealistic to me.
- By the time Adela accepts him, I think Rodrigo, her greatest enemy, will be revealed as the long lost son and let's see how Carlos deals with this. Rodrigo seems dedicated to his gang, but will he cause harm to a person that his father loves?
- I'm liking Luis more every day; I wasn't sure about him at first, because I kept remembering the last part I saw him in, in Mentir para Vivir, but the kid is smart and interesting - let's see what he does to win over the rich girl.
I think that's about it for now. I'll try to be back as soon as possible, hopefully I can watch the episodes as they are aired, so I can be a part of the discussion more.
BAJO
Hola, Adriana Noel. Good to see you back. I agree that Carlos' infatuation with Adela was amazingly quick. In fact, I think it happened even before the first kiss. When he was chasing her on the beach after she had stolen his truck, he tackles her and the minute he looks at her face, he's smitten. I found this rather silly, but it happens a lot...in movies and telenovelas.
Hola, Adriana Noel. Good to see you back. I agree that Carlos' infatuation with Adela was amazingly quick. In fact, I think it happened even before the first kiss. When he was chasing her on the beach after she had stolen his truck, he tackles her and the minute he looks at her face, he's smitten. I found this rather silly, but it happens a lot...in movies and telenovelas.
Bajo
hmm, I think it was love at first sight, when Adela was stealing his truck, and Carlos was hanging on the side, when their eyes first met, and they have both been trying to make like it isn't true ever since.
hmm, I think it was love at first sight, when Adela was stealing his truck, and Carlos was hanging on the side, when their eyes first met, and they have both been trying to make like it isn't true ever since.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 11:37:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 11:37:00 AM EDT
Bajo. I'm with you ,Deb! And we must remember that this is telenovelaland, where such things happen, even if Bajo is less unbelievable than a lot of tns and does make some important social and ethical points. I also suspect the Adela actress is supposed to be playing a character just slightly older than she is in real life and the Carlos actor someone slightly younger, which isn't exactly uncommon in tv and movies.
Bajo. The actress playing Adela is 30, the actor playing Carlos is 47, which is a big gap but not exactly May to December, and the writer seems to be knocking herself out showing how much they have in common and how well suited they are to each other. And geez, they're both so likable!
Bajo
ah, but I think part of the story is about showing how Adela's life has given her a maturity that can be a match for Carlos, in spite of the age difference, this was shown where she tried to save Noemi, while Luis could only stand there and watch.
ah, but I think part of the story is about showing how Adela's life has given her a maturity that can be a match for Carlos, in spite of the age difference, this was shown where she tried to save Noemi, while Luis could only stand there and watch.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 1:21:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 1:21:00 PM EDT
Bajo
Great point, deb. In fact, Adela has said that she never had a chance to be a child. She is someone who was forced into a prematurely adult role and is now emotionally older than her years. (I suspect that we'll see her get a chance to experience some of that childlike joy she missed out on before it's all said and done.)
Great point, deb. In fact, Adela has said that she never had a chance to be a child. She is someone who was forced into a prematurely adult role and is now emotionally older than her years. (I suspect that we'll see her get a chance to experience some of that childlike joy she missed out on before it's all said and done.)
Bajo. Good points, Deb and Novela Maven! And Carlos's hanging onto the side of his truck and staring into the window has got to be the ultimate in "meeting cute."
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Adriana Noel, I can understand your skepticism about the instant feelings Carlos has for Adela. But I think this "evergreen" plot point is part and parcel of nearly all telenovelas. I've lost count of the times the two protagonists meet, often quite by accident, gaze into each other's eyes; and we veteran viewers know that, however many unsuitable fiancées and parentally approved boyfriends or girlfriends may exist, the die is cast. If we want realism, we can always watch CNN.
I also am not bothered by the age difference, although the extremely black shade of Gabriel Porras' hair sometimes gives me pause.
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Adriana Noel, I can understand your skepticism about the instant feelings Carlos has for Adela. But I think this "evergreen" plot point is part and parcel of nearly all telenovelas. I've lost count of the times the two protagonists meet, often quite by accident, gaze into each other's eyes; and we veteran viewers know that, however many unsuitable fiancées and parentally approved boyfriends or girlfriends may exist, the die is cast. If we want realism, we can always watch CNN.
I also am not bothered by the age difference, although the extremely black shade of Gabriel Porras' hair sometimes gives me pause.
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